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on first round guaranteed money, i think it`s going to be borderline between him being a first and second round pick.
 
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I read a draft prediction a few weeks ago by a guy who had Davidson listed as one of the kids who would return to college. I know there are about 1,000 projections being put out but if it's such a foregone conclusion that he is entering the draft why hasn't he done it yet?
 
I thought that was pretty much common thinking. He's been protected as a mid to late 20s pick. Those players can easily fall to the second round. With a good combine, he could jump in the teens but he has to have a really good combine.
 
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I thought that was pretty much common thinking. He's been protected as a mid to late 20s pick. Those players can easily fall to the second round. With a good combine, he could jump in the teens but he has to have a really good combine.
Hey G.O.A.T., got a question for ya: Are players judge in the NBA combine individually like the NFL or within a team concept?
 
If there was ever a player who needed an extra year, it's JD. Whomever drafts him will have a lot of work to do.
the thing I disagree with is him coming back to “work on his game.” The NBA and CBB are so different, plus he will get better coaching for the NBA if he leaves. No having to go to class, no limits on practice time, and he can hire himself a shooting coach. If someone will draft him in the first round, he's better off going pro.
 
the thing I disagree with is him coming back to “work on his game.” The NBA and CBB are so different, plus he will get better coaching for the NBA if he leaves. No having to go to class, no limits on practice time, and he can hire himself a shooting coach. If someone will draft him in the first round, he's better off going pro.
Good point!
 
Hey G.O.A.T., got a question for ya: Are players judge in the NBA combine individually like the NFL or within a team concept?
It's a bit of both but they place a lot of emphasis on the individual shooting and dribbling drills.
 
Oh boy! He may do okay shooting, but dribbling may be a problem.
He's going to blow them away with his athleticism. He's not a bad ball handler; with him, it's more his decision-making where he gets himself into trouble driving into the defense with nowhere to go. I could be wrong, but I think he's going to be a much better NBA player than a college player.
 
He's going to blow them away with his athleticism. He's not a bad ball handler; with him, it's more his decision-making where he gets himself into trouble driving into the defense with nowhere to go. I could be wrong, but I think he's going to be a much better NBA player than a college player.
If nothing else, in the NBA most of his teammates should be capable of catching and making use of his passes. He probably had 1/4 or more of his turnovers this year because a pass was flat missed by the receiver that was usually someone in or around the paint. Maybe it was because it was a reckless or poorly timed pass but it was catchable in a scoring position. Or he was anticipating passing somewhere and realized too late that no one was going to be where they were supposed to be and he had to try some dumb cross court jump ball pass.

If he does go to the draft I hope he goes 1st round so we can keep some momentum going toward the draft. Since Sexton we've gone from having virtually no players drafted in generations to multiple first round picks. That can only help recruiting even if it proves JD needs time in a lower league like Primo has needed.
 
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JD can’t afford to play another year in college. His stock has dropped considerably after year 1 at Bama. If an NBA team is willing to take a flyer on him in the second round he needs to go. If he stays and expects a different result in year 2 he is fooling himself…he can’t shoot, he is not a good ball handler, he turns the ball over way too often and he has no concept on how to defend. He better get what he can get if he can get it.
 
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JD can’t afford to play another year in college. His stock has dropped considerably after year 1 at Bama. If an NBA team is willing to take a flyer on him in the second round he needs to go. If he stays and expects a different result in year 2 he is fooling himself…he can’t shoot, he is not a good ball handler, he turns the ball over way too often and he has no concept on how to defend. He better get what he can get if he can get it.
Good Lord, did you just start watching sports?
 
the thing I disagree with is him coming back to “work on his game.” The NBA and CBB are so different, plus he will get better coaching for the NBA if he leaves. No having to go to class, no limits on practice time, and he can hire himself a shooting coach. If someone will draft him in the first round, he's better off going pro.
The NBA drafts players on the first round all the time that need to work on their games.
Jabari , JD, to name a few, all have deficiencies.
But both have the athleticism you can’t coach
 
Only someone who never played or even watched sports would think that a player has no chance to improve their game

But as I've heard Wimp say, “you can't argue with someone that don't know nothing”
He is talking about at the present time. And what he said is basically correct. Did not say he could not improve. God knows he needs to in all areas.
I know plenty/ have played plenty and have watched forever. Your issue is anyone who disagrees with you is automatically wrong.
 
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Pretty much all of it. JD’s a true freshman with elite potential. Do we seriously think he can’t continue to improve his game?
Sure he can improve/ but what he stated for the present time is correct. Not a good shooter, plays little D and is a turnover machine.
 
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All players can improve on something. If they were perfect, there would be no need for practice. Just tell them who they are playing when and where to show up.
 
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He is talking about at the present time. And what he said is basically correct. Did not say he could not improve. God knows he needs to in all areas.
I know plenty/ have played plenty and have watched forever. Your issue is anyone who disagrees with you is automatically wrong.
“If he says and except a different result in years 2 he's fooling himself”

I don't know about you but that sounds to me like he's saying JD can't improve. Yore irrational hate for that kid blinds you...
 
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Sure he can improve/ but what he stated for the present time is correct. Not a good shooter, plays little D and is a turnover machine.
Right… but his post isn’t about the present. He said he’s fooling himself if he thinks he can improve himself in year 2. JD is literally the epitome of a player who will improve dramatically after his freshman year.
 
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“If he says and except a different result in years 2 he's fooling himself”

I don't know about you but that sounds to me like he's saying JD can't improve. Yore irrational hate for that kid blinds you...
I don’t hate the kid. Where are you getting that? But the hype just did not match the on court results remotely. Have seen many true freshman light years ahead of him in nearly every fundamental aspect of the game.
I know/ it is all Oats fault. 🙄🙄
 
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I don’t hate the kid. Where are you getting that? But the hype just did not match the on court results remotely. Have seen many true freshman light years ahead of him in nearly every fundamental aspect of the game.
I know/ it is all Oats fault. 🙄🙄
Sometimes it’s no one’s fault. I’m sure Goat and others would point to Oats and we have some who would point at the kid. Sometimes a player is just overhyped coming out of high school. And it’s often a kid like JD with insane athleticism who played 2A basketball.
 
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I don’t hate the kid. Where are you getting that? But the hype just did not match the on court results remotely. Have seen many true freshman light years ahead of him in nearly every fundamental aspect of the game.
I know/ it is all Oats fault. 🙄🙄
You clearly hate the kid which is very weird to me.

What I blame Oats for is what I have blamed him for all year, not adjusting to the players on THIS year's team. I still don't know how anyone watching this team still not realize that the system they played each and every game did not fit the skill set of the majority of the players on this team.
 
You clearly hate the kid which is very weird to me.

What I blame Oats for is what I have blamed him for all year, not adjusting to the players on THIS year's team. I still don't know how anyone watching this team still not realize that the system they played each and every game did not fit the skill set of the majority of the players on this team.
Not sure where you are getting the “ hate” aspect. He was simply the most over hyped 5 star guy I have ever seen since Trevor Lacey.
 
Sometimes it’s no one’s fault. I’m sure Goat and others would point to Oats and we have some who would point at the kid. Sometimes a player is just overhyped coming out of high school. And it’s often a kid like JD with insane athleticism who played 2A basketball.
The players never bear any responsibility according to the GOAT. The 2A basketball comment is very legit.
 
You live in a world of logical fallacies.
And you live in a world “ let me tell you how right I am”. You would argue with a rock. What I have said about JD is “ logically spot on”. Good God get over your self righteousness and overbearing efforts to be correct all the time.
Will agree/ Oats did not adjust this season. But to always defend the players on EVERYTHING is ridiculous.
 
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And you live in a world “ let me tell you how right I am”. You would argue with a rock. What I have said about JD is “ logically spot on”. Good God get over your self righteousness and overbearing efforts to be correct all the time.
Will agree/ Oats did not adjust this season. But to always defend the players on EVERYTHING is ridiculous.
You seem a bit too sensitive to be on a message board...
 
Pwestbrook…I appreciate your opinion. Neither you nor I said JD couldn’t get better…he can get better. But right now he isn’t worthy of a 1 and done 5 star status. In fact, just as I said if he gets drafted he would do himself proud to take what he can get. As it stands right now he isn’t anywhere close to living up to his hype. His fundamentals are less than Britton Johnson’s and it will take a monumental effort in a non fundamental rich CNO system for him to significantly improve. I coached Chris Porter in AAU and suggested to him to leave AU after his JR. season. He didn’t and went from a lottery draft choice with a guaranteed contract to a 2nd round draft choice and a non guaranteed contract. It cost CP a lot of money. JD ain’t no where near as good as CP was. The NBA loves athleticism but at some point you have to be a good basketball player and JD isn’t that now. Pwestbrook…taking G.O.A.T serious is like taking Joe Biden, AOC or Majorwood serious…you know what I mean…it is just a waste of time. RTR
 
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Pwestbrook…I appreciate your opinion. Neither you nor I said JD couldn’t get better…he can get better. But right now he isn’t worthy of a 1 and done 5 star status. In fact, just as I said if he gets drafted he would do himself proud to take what he can get. As it stands right now he isn’t anywhere close to living up to his hype. His fundamentals are less than Britton Johnson’s and it will take a monumental effort in a non fundamental rich CNO system for him to significantly improve. I coached Chris Porter in AAU and suggested to him to leave AU after his JR. season. He didn’t and went from a lottery draft choice with a guaranteed contract to a 2nd round draft choice and a non guaranteed contract. It cost CP a lot of money. JD ain’t no where near as good as CP was. The NBA loves athleticism but at some point you have to be a good basketball player and JD isn’t that now. Pwestbrook…taking G.O.A.T serious is like taking Joe Biden, AOC or Majorwood serious…you know what I mean…it is just a waste of time. RTR
Great post/ and better advise. Thanks.
 
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From the guy who always has his panties in a wad. 😀😀

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