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No I ask him personally on IG and he said that rumor was started by an auburn fan, and he will be back.
There was rumor also that he was dogging Oats, that he didn't play the right players and that was a lie also. The other rumor was he said Rojos and pringle dominated practice and neither got much playing time. Another lie, he did say that pringle was dominant in most practices and should've played more, but he said the crap with Rojas was bogus because he never played with him. He and Burnett was talking on IG live about Colmen being one of the worst staduims in the SEC and college basketball, which most on here agree with, so not sure why people are getting mad at him saying that.
From a players perspective what would make Coleman a dump? The goals are the same size as anywhere, likewise the length and width. For the most part this past season the place was full to the rafters. Were the dressing rooms a problem? Just asking.
I was wondering the same thing. Oats is on record as saying our practice facilities and player areas are as good as any in the country.
No, the locker rooms and practice facilities are great. Coleman as a fallout shelter is great. Coleman as basketball gym is awful. The players know it, the coaches knows it, the administration knows it, and the fans know it. Something needs to be done asap.
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They’ve done good improving everything around the gym, but the court and seating is way behind. Facility and locker rooms are top knotch.
What else can he say? Imagine trying to recruit after saying something else, or nothing.
Huge difference between on the court and off the court. We might have been 18-0 at the Student Rec Center.
The money raised for the last 15 years has gone to the football facilities and stadium. There is certainly no bottomless pit of donations from our alumni. Take your pick…
The next facility will be a blend of the best arenas and field houses in the country. Trust me… so much is happening behind the scenes.
Everyone is serious to build new place and to do it well.
But money and construction isn’t cheap now
Everyone is serious to build new place and to do it well.
But money and construction isn’t cheap now
I am aware of that/ it is actually very common knowledge. The truth is some in Administration and many of the big money people are football centric only. It is all they care about.
And some other sports have suffered- mainly the baseball and women’s basketball which both remain irrelevant.
Football is King and pays for a lot of other stuff/ I get it.
But a school with the resources of Alabama should not be playing in a 55 year old airplane hanger.
Will also add the University has found the money to basically transform the campus in the last 12-15 years. It is amazing to drive around and realize how new just about everything is on that campus. And I realize they floated bonds and currently have debt to pay for all of that.
Everything is new/ except the basketball arena.
“Found” is not exactly the right term as if the money was embedded in a couch in the president’s mansion…
Richard Shelby
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Education before basketball. Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be?
From the players' perspective, there's no difference. A new arena would be for the fans. But here's the thing, if we build one, we will lose seats (down to roughly 10K, because we can't afford a bigger arena) and ticket prices will go up.
The reason to reduce seats is not about cost. It's about filling out the arena on a nightly basis.
"You don't build your church for Easter"
CNS has done a lot for Tuscaloosa as well. Football is certainly King but I hope BB is at least a Prince
Uh, it's partially about cost. I guarantee you we aren't building a new 15K seat arena, because the cost is too great. That's been made abundantly clear. We can fill a 15K arena, BTW.
Well what do you purpose? Do you really want a little 10000 seat chicken coop like Auburn? Or, do you want a 18000 seat building to compete with Kentucky, or Tennessee? It’s about the future. If we build a chicken coop then we are stuck with it. Do you really want to pay double for your ticket. I’m for putting the money to work in getting the best assistant coaching staff in college basketball. Waiting for construction prices to drop then building the best basketball arena in the SEC. It’s about winning! We sold out 15000 seat old Coleman simply because we won every home game this year.
We can fill it. As I said, you don't build your church for easter. Yes you can fill it on Easter. And Christmas. But a lot of other weekends won't be full. You think if we're spending 250 million dollars on a stadium we couldn't add a few seats if we wanted to?
Well we had "Easter" for almost every home SEC game this season. We didn't just have one sellout, and the conference games that weren't sold out still had great crowds. 10,000 seats is much too small IMO.
10,000 is bigger than duke's stadium and they sell out every game. Sometimes having a packed stadium is better than having a 75% full big stadium
For most instances I absolutely LOATHE this cop out of an excuse to justify building small.
I'm beyond tired of hearing highway planners claim we can't expand roads for the couple hours of rush hour and a few Saturdays in the spring when snowbirds rush through. I-65 has needed help for decades and Montgomery is content with having a dozen or so major accidents every month that lock down the interstate for hours. Instead of blaming drivers maybe look into making enough space for the traffic. Its finally gotten bad enough that folks from outside the state have made some noise about it.
Conversely I would argue its a really rare instance when something is built that they say "we should have built it smaller". It's a lot easier to overbuild and adjust as needed than to build yourself into a corner where expansion is basically impossible. In the really rare instances where one could legitimately say "we built it too big" one likely could also question why it was built at all.
Good for the barn or Duke or whoever that has a size that fits them. How about we not copy someone and blindly expect it to work for us.
I will continue to maintain that our sweet spot is around 13 to 14k seats. Everyone wants to build this thing assuming we'll regress to our norm of a perennial bubble team that couldn't fill Foster Aud in Dec. In that case plan for that and go back to Foster.
You're new here, so I will give my summation. If you want to keep Coleman, you make an upper deck that brings the fans over the top and closer to the floor. They designed it for Avery and then never did shit about it. You add floor suites to get the big money folks what they want. You change the arena from square to a circle so no seat face a wall. The seats up in the 40th row plus are horrible seats. I had to sit there for some covid games and I feel sorry for anyone that gets stuck paying for that seat. There are other seats that can't see behind the scoreboard at end of the arena.
If you build a new arena, I am fine with a smaller facility. 12-13k is probably big enough. There is a hunger for games, but most of the time, Coleman does not sell out. Especially the early games that are non conference. You can't build an arena for only 1 or 2 sellouts. You don't want it so big that the opposing fans come in and buy up all the tickets like Kentucky fans do. The new arena is what Oats wants because he doesn't want to redo Coleman and have to play up in Bham for 2 years. It would hurt recruiting.
Ok but 13k or 14k is still smaller than what we have today. So you're still suggesting we downsize.
We didn't have just 1 or 2 sellouts. We sold out every Saturday home SEC game weeks or months in advance. Tickets for those games on the secondary market were selling for more than some of this year's Final Four tickets sold for.
Wrong. ESPN has us with no official sellouts. They may be wrong, but the highest capacity is 93% On ESPN. We averaged under 11k for 15 home games. It was arguably our best season ever and that was it.
https://rolltide.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats
I'm not wrong. I would trust our own athletic department website over ESPN. Arkansas, Kentucky, LSU, Georgia, and boogs were all hard sellouts. I know for a fact because I went on rolltide.com and tried to buy tickets to those games. I ended up paying over $100 each for the LSU game. I didn't buy tickets to any of the others because prices were just too steep.
You can't go by the amount of tickets sold. Football boosters buy basketball season tickets for the Tide Pride points. We were not near capacity for several SEC games this year until the we were getting highly ranked and the rest of the seats were finally occupied.
Until the University changes the points system, the same thing will happen at any size arena.
Until the University changes the points system, the same thing will happen at any size arena.
The prices per ticket will go up to reflect supple & demand. So if your concern is Kentucky fans buying up tickets? Then they will open their purse just like you and I to buy tickets to this micro facility. We could down size the seating in Coleman if that’s what you want. I work in engineering, and I can see ways of down sizing the seating to make every seat viewable to the fans. If your concern is the airplane hanger appearance then that is a low cost fix compared to a 250 million dollar chicken coop just to make us fill better about Auburn. At Alabama we lead this state from the front. Not chasing our little bother. The real question is can CNO put together the best coaching staff in recruiting & fresh ideals about how to make it past the sweet16. Will Alabama open the purse to bring in the best coaches. I was at Coleman for only one game this year. There wasn’t an empty seat. In fact People were standing that couldn’t get a seat. It’s not about downsizing to accommodate empty seats. It’s about winning and having an excited fan base that wants a ticket. This “ build it and they will come” is bullshit. Win and they will come is reality!!
