james rojas
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On this message board? Probably more likely than being on the team
I hope so, I hate it how quickly fans give up on a player. Even more so, I hate the ideal of players being forced out to make room for another. People love to use the term "student-athlete" when talking about giving players a slice of the pie, but are ok with these "student-athletes" being forced to find somewhere else to generate millions of dollars when it benefits the program.
I don’t. The portal is full. Guys will want to play for Oats and in his system. Rojas has helped us at times. But there are better players out there. But we shall see. Oats may think differently.
Yeah, I’ve been thinking this as well. He’s getting very limited minutes even though the team has endured so many injuries this season. He can’t score or rebound and while he hustles on defense the only way he can stop an opponent from scoring is by fouling.
I agree P&P, but he needs a helmet and shoulder pads to play his game sometimes. frosh Gary is so much more productive.
The more Oats recruits the better. No disrespect to especially our seniors, but I for one don’t think he will be here next year.
I’d like to get a guy that does those things but is a little better at basketball if there is one in the portal. All of these guys get after it. Oats doesn’t accept anything less than that. Rojas just has a little different attitude. Which is also probably why he can foul and turn it over both in a real big hurry. His positives are also his negatives. But he’s given us energy in games when we needed it. I’m kinda in the middle on him as far as whether he should leave or go. But I’d think we could do better.
I don’t think so, personally. I’ll say the second half of the season he’s played much more within himself.
Agree with all you posted but Rojas simply does not play very smart basketball. Seems as what little time he gets on the floor he works so hard to make an impact but immediately fouls or has a turnover.
I do like his intensity and maybe if Oates keeps him he will improve.
I would think his tenure would depend on improvement. If Oats & company can smooth out some rough edges, there's a place for him on the 21/22 team. Tenacity, hustle, and desire to win is all there. He just needs some fine tuning.
So you'd be fine if JQ, Bruner, and Ellis were not on this team and Forbes, Smith, and Davis where? Whether we like it or not this is a business. If Byrne doesn't want it to be a business then he should find him a coach for $350k and tell him to go have fun. What happens when you land that amazing player but the rest of the players struggle and the team goes 11-20? That amazing player hits the portal and waves bye-bye to your mediocrity.
No. Our days of letting below average basketball players steal minutes is over. I guarantee he transfers.
Either they’ve fine tuned him by now or haven’t. He’s been on campus for 2 years hasn’t he? They aren’t going to keep him for fine tuning at this point. Can’t wait and see if he improves this offseason bc it’ll be too late to replace him then.
With the way Gary has played of late, plus the additions of Tchikou and possibly Bediako next year, I'd imagine Rojas sees the writing on the wall and puts himself in transfer portal even if Oats offers him the opportunity to return. I just don't see him getting more playing time next year if he returns.
Agree. Also, Langston Wilson will take away more minutes from Rojas as well. 6-9 kid who can shoot from the perimeter and score around the basket. He has some serious hops. Take a quick look at these highlights and tell me honestly if Rojas is capable of any of this.
I think that if Rojas can learn the art of setting a pick and catching the ball, he would make an excellent Tight End. He is talented, mean and loves to hit people, so he would fit right in with the football team, provided he learns to control his temper. He is to light to play Defensive Tackle.
There is nothing wrong with Rojas, provided you need five fouls committed in two minutes and we get to pick the foul shooter for the other team.
There is nothing wrong with Rojas, provided you need five fouls committed in two minutes and we get to pick the foul shooter for the other team.
He at least started to play within himself offensively. There was a stretch there in the middle of the season where he was just about averaging a turnover per touch.
I'll go ahead and say it. He's not talented enough to help us if we wanna keep the program moving forward. He works hard and hopefully he proves me wrong and becomes a star, but as of right now he's not good enough.
Nope of the players you mentioned Fitz this argument. JQ is a 5 star player that left because HE wanted to leave, he was not asked to leave to make room for a more talented player. Bruner is a grad transfer who is in the same situation, he was not asked to leave. Ellis was a junior college player, their whole goal is to leave the program to go to a D1 school.
So I say again, if this is a business, one that generate billions of dollars a year, players should be paid to compensate them for what they have to go through in order for many people to fatten their pockets. Stop using the “student-athlete” monicker when it fits your argument to not pay them.
BTW, regular students leave schools all the time to transfer to another school, that’s part of being a “student”.
I am saying Davis, Smith, and Forbes exited Alabama so that room was available for Q, Bruner, and Ellis. You would argue those 3 guys should have been allowed to stay longer at Bama to develop rather than the team making an obvious upgrade or am I interpreting your post wrong?
Yes, you recruited them to Bama. Coach them up. But to tell them to get lost because they are not as good as you thought they would be is shitty. I feel the same way about football and any other sport.
Or at least stop pretending they are these “student-athletes” and that’s the reason for not paying them. If a player like Davis realized that Bama style of play does not benefit him and he decides to move on that is one thing, but to tell a player he needs to leave is another.
Hope Rojas stays. He’s one year removed from ACL surgery. Still gaining confidence in his knee and playing Power 5 basketball. Oates & company saw something in him, it’s still there.
Gary makes more plays but like Rojas, could stand to lose a few more pounds.
Gary makes more plays but like Rojas, could stand to lose a few more pounds.
Gary is also one year removed from ACL surgery, and he plays circles around Rojas. The fact is that Rojas isn't a power 5 basketball talent. There's a reason that his only major offer was from Alabama. He is 4 years removed from high school and has more than likely reached his ceiling. He would be better suited transferring to a smaller school closer to home such as Buffalo, where he originally committed. I'm not sure he would even start there, but he would probably log much more playing time than he will here. We'll have Gary, Tchikou, Ambrose-Hylton, Wilson, and hopefully Bediako in the front court next year. I just don't see Rojas cracking the rotation.
I don’t care, if he wants to stay at Alabama and work hard to try and get playing time, let him. So many fans on this board gets pissed at players for leaving if they don’t start right away in football, going so far as to call them names.
But a player that wants to stay, get better, and battle, you now want to leave to make room for someone you think might be a better player. Do you not see the hypocrisy?
Also, how many here would have asked a player like Obasohan or Roy Rodgers to leave after their first few years at Alabama? They both turned in great senior seasons.
The problem with basketball recruiting is that when you can only have 13 players on scholarship at a time, misses are magnified a lot more than football misses. With the existence of the transfer portal, you also get second chances on players from other teams that can be role players on your team. Players like JQ that would still not start at 'Nova' are able to move to another school where they can showcase their talents, or a player like Keon Ellis can come in and eventually become the star he will be next season.
Galin Smith, was never going to start at Alabama and he thought he had a chance at Maryland, so I would have done the same thing for my senior year.
I would have loved to have seen Forbes stick around, as I saw a lot of potential there, but his choice was to transfer. That being said, I don't think Forbes would have cracked the rotation this year
If Javian Davis had stayed, I think he would have been a major contributor and Bruner would not have come to Alabama. I think Davis would have eventually lost his starting spot to Gary. He did not start at MissStake; however, he was never going to beat out Ado.
Galin Smith, was never going to start at Alabama and he thought he had a chance at Maryland, so I would have done the same thing for my senior year.
I would have loved to have seen Forbes stick around, as I saw a lot of potential there, but his choice was to transfer. That being said, I don't think Forbes would have cracked the rotation this year
If Javian Davis had stayed, I think he would have been a major contributor and Bruner would not have come to Alabama. I think Davis would have eventually lost his starting spot to Gary. He did not start at MissStake; however, he was never going to beat out Ado.
I’d keep Forbes and still think Davis will become a very good player in college
Wilson
Davison
Holt
Gary
Shack
Q
Primos
Ellis
Miles
Ambrose
Tchikou
If you are Oats and you can add 2 more guys who are you taking: Bediako, Rojas, Jones (transfer), or Burnett (transfer)??
I don't think he is on the team next year. Even without Bediako Ambrose, Gary, and Tchikou are going to keep him burried on the depth chart. But he does have an off-season to work hard and prove me wrong.
Davison
Holt
Gary
Shack
Q
Primos
Ellis
Miles
Ambrose
Tchikou
If you are Oats and you can add 2 more guys who are you taking: Bediako, Rojas, Jones (transfer), or Burnett (transfer)??
I don't think he is on the team next year. Even without Bediako Ambrose, Gary, and Tchikou are going to keep him burried on the depth chart. But he does have an off-season to work hard and prove me wrong.
I’m fine if he decides Bama is not the place for him, just like I’m fine when players we would like to keep in football decides that Bama is not for them.
My issue to when we hear about players being told to lol elsewhere because they don’t have a spot on the team anymore. Even though the kid is doing everything ask of him.
Grow up. This is high-level college basketball, not the Girl Scouts. I sincerely hope you don’t claim to be a fan of the basketball team, unless you like talking out of both sides of your mouth.
I don't claim to be, I am. One of a few on here that support and watches Alabama basketball even when they are bad, not just jump on when they start winning.
I am also support the players, you can be both you know. I hope you are not one of those sanctimonious fans who love to call them student-athletes as your reason why they should not be getting paid.
If you are going to treat them like pro players, right up to the point that you can just cut them for a better player, then those players should get a slice of this multi-billion dollar industry that is college athletics.
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