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Ms. Harris Parents Were on National News Condemming Alabama for Playing Miller

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l understand their hurt and my heart goes out to them. They have either been grossly misinformed about the stituation apparently or they just don't understand it.

Evidently they have not said one word about Johnson having their daughter out at 2:00am and putting her in a dangerous stituation.

NBC News totally juggled their report around to fit their agenda. They first talked about the alleged murder and then showed a clip of Coach Oates saying only--it will not happen again--he was talking about the pre-game search, but they did not mention it. Made it sound like Oates was saying that a murder wouldn't happen again.

What a damn mess the media has made of this.
 
I find it terrible odd that they seem focused on wanting Miller’s life ruined, but seem to be awfully quiet on the people in the center on this incident…Johnson, Miles, and Davis.

And they don’t want to mention their daughters boy friend brought a gun with to Tuscaloosa.

But Brandon is the bad guy here…can’t fix stupid people with an agenda
 
IMO they're just angry at everyone even remotely connected to the shooting and the media has an eagerness to use them to keep eyeballs and link clicks going on this story. Everyone around them is likely echoing "of course they should just shut down the program and put'em all in jail too".

So of course nbc will play up the narrative they want pushed while using the family.

We would do well to just get used to hearing about this. We're going to hear it tomorrow night, Saturday, every day of the SEC tournament, every single Oats press conference, probably 30 minutes of the selection show will find a way to keep bringing it up, again when the NCAA tourney starts, again before/during/after each tournament game we play, if we make it to the final 4 probably half or more of the pregame buildup will be this story and they'll make our players do interviews about it...

I doubt it ever happens but I think everyone would appreciate the related videos and texts released. If it ever is released it will be after the trial and likely many months after everyone but the family has moved on with life.

You can't blame the family for being angry but you can open up a whole can of pissed off at the media using this event and not presenting the full picture instead of framing a story to whatever ends they're aiming to get (views and clicks).
 
l understand their hurt and my heart goes out to them. They have either been grossly misinformed about the stituation apparently or they just don't understand it.

Evidently they have not said one word about Johnson having their daughter out at 2:00am and putting her in a dangerous stituation.

NBC News totally juggled their report around to fit their agenda. They first talked about the alleged murder and then showed a clip of Coach Oates saying only--it will not happen again--he was talking about the pre-game search, but they did not mention it. Made it sound like Oates was saying that a murder wouldn't happen again.

What a damn mess the media has made of this.
Typical modern media. All journalistic integrity has been gone for several years now in TV and print news. Very sad.
 
l understand their hurt and my heart goes out to them. They have either been grossly misinformed about the stituation apparently or they just don't understand it.

Evidently they have not said one word about Johnson having their daughter out at 2:00am and putting her in a dangerous stituation.

NBC News totally juggled their report around to fit their agenda. They first talked about the alleged murder and then showed a clip of Coach Oates saying only--it will not happen again--he was talking about the pre-game search, but they did not mention it. Made it sound like Oates was saying that a murder wouldn't happen again.

What a damn mess the media has made of this.
Laney The NBC story is not as bad as you say. NBC Story on Harris Death however, you are right, what was their daughter doing out at 1:45 in the morning, 60 miles away from her child with a man with a cartridge pistol, with loaded cartridges and a pistol in the car, drugs in the car, and a man that feels it is more important to wait for two other men to leave the bar than get his girlfriend back to her baby and he pulls up behind the two men that he previously had a fight with, while he has his headlights off. I think it is clear that Johnson intended to shoot Davis and Miles and anyone that tried to stop him. He thought Davis was unarmed, he just didn’t expect Davis to have access to a weapon.

The parents need to be honest with themselves. If anyone was a victim, it was Miller. Now the penalty for being a bad mother is not death and the woman did not deserve to die, but the real question here is why has Johnson not been charged? There must be something in the video that is not expected.

I listened to the NBC video. I counted 12 shot in five seconds. Davis statement was that he grabbed the gun because he saw Johnson’s gun. Check the speed 12 shots from two weapons in five seconds. I would submit this video shows that more likely than not, if Johnson pulled up behind Miller, with Johnson's lights off when he pulled up, that Johnson intended to do harm to Davis, Miles and Miller. The only reason the three were not shot was that the passenger in Johnson’s car, Ms. Harris was shot. Davis in a five second exchange was hit twice.

The press should be called out for dishonest reporting, when they are dishonest, but They clearly show Coach Oat is commenting on the intro, and they say that TPD clearly believe Miller is not involved.
 
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Laney The NBC story is not as bad as you say. NBC Story on Harris Death however, you are right, what was their daughter doing out at 1:45 in the morning, 60 miles away from her child with a man with a cartridge pistol, with loaded cartridges and a pistol in the car, drugs in the car, and a man that feels it is more important to wait for two other men to leave the bar than get his girlfriend back to her baby and he pulls up behind the two men that he previously had a fight with, while he has his headlights off. I think it is clear that Johnson intended to shoot Davis and Miles and anyone that tried to stop him. He thought Davis was unarmed, he just didn’t expect Davis to have access to a weapon.

The parents need to be honest with themselves. If anyone was a victim, it was Miller. Now the penalty for being a bad mother is not death and the woman did not deserve to die, but the real question here is why has Johnson not been charged? There must be something in the video that is not expected.

I listened to the NBC video. I counted 12 shot in five seconds. Davis statement was that he grabbed the gun because he say Johnson’s gun. Check the speed 12 shots from two weapons in five seconds. I would submit this video shows that more likely than not, if Johnson pulled up behind Miller, with Johnsons lights off when he pulled up, that Johnson intended to do harm to Davis, Miles and Miller. The only reason the three were not shot was that the passenger in Johnson’s car, Ms. Harris was shot. Davis in a five second exchange was hit twice.

The press should be called out for dishonest reporting, when they are dishonest, but They clearly show Coach Oat is commenting on the intro, and they say that TPD clearly believe Miller is not involved.
As you already know, I truly appreciate your knowledgeable input, but I have one question. How does Miles know his friend needs a gun to protect himself before Miller gets there(the text that was sent)? Miles friend goes to the car, retrieves the gun(or so I assume), and bullets start flying. We don’t know if Johnson or Davis fires first, but, due to Miles text, it seems evident that he felt Davis needed a gun before this all broke out.
 
I find it terrible odd that they seem focused on wanting Miller’s life ruined, but seem to be awfully quiet on the people in the center on this incident…Johnson, Miles, and Davis.
Exactly, where's the outrage against the perpetrators? I've not heard any negatives about the person or persons that pulled the triggers. Why does the main stream media go after people that were not directly involved? Oh yeah, its their agenda and because they believe its newsworthy.
 
Our best source of info to date has been Vaughnbama. When I was an undergrad, I had to take a Journalism class for my minor (Telecommunications & Film). One of the first things he taught us was, "if it bleeds, it leads!" This told me that sensationalism rules the day and today's media will not let truth (or common sense) get in the way of a good story. Although Miss Harris death is tragic, emotions can't subplant the rule of law. You can't punish someone (i.e. Miller) because you feel that he/she have committed some illegal act. You can't punish anyone until they have been convicted...to date, Miller has not even been charged with a crime. So unless some new revelation is uncovered concerniing Miller's involvement, he is free to continue with his life as we all are.
 
As you already know, I truly appreciate your knowledgeable input, but I have one question. How does Miles know his friend needs a gun to protect himself before Miller gets there(the text that was sent)? Miles friend goes to the car, retrieves the gun(or so I assume), and bullets start flying. We don’t know if Johnson or Davis fires first, but, due to Miles text, it seems evident that he felt Davis needed a gun before this all broke out.
Have you heard me say once that there is not a matter that Miles must answer for. Under Title 13A-2-23 Code of Alabama 1975, as amended, Self Defense is a matter that must be asserted and proven, as a defense to a crime. The Code of Alabama clearly defines the shooting of a weapon into a vehicle that kills someone, can be Capital Murder. The supplying of a weapon with the knowledge that it is going to be used to commit a Capital Murder can make one an accomplice before the fact, which would make them just as guilty, as the principal. If Ms. Harris was an accomplice to Mr. Johnson, then the Self Defense would apply to her. It does not matter who fired first, whether it be Johnson or Davis, If one has the ability to safely retreat, the law of Alabama requires retreat. If one voluntarily enters into an affray, the Doctrine of Self Defense does not apply. If, as has been alleged, and I say "if" Johnson pulled in directly behind Miller, as he saw Miles and Davis approaching Miller's vehicle, then I think it is clear who the instigator of the second dispute was and that there was a voluntary entry. Except for Johnson pulling in behind Miller, with Johnson's headlights off, a loaded pistol, with loaded cartridges, ready to shoot, (All shots were fired in a five second time frame,) four from Johnson and eight from Davis) the death of Ms. Harris would not have occurred. It sure sounds like Johnson's shots were fired first, if he only fired four times.

If those are the facts, and there is strong evidence those are the facts, then Miles had an obvious fear that he needed his weapon. Do you think for a second, in view of Mr. Johnson's apparent actions, that if the facts are correct and there was not gun for Mr. Davis to grab, that we would not be talking today about what kind of season Bama would have had if Davis, Miles and Miller had been murdered by Mr. Johnson that night, because I can see where that was Mr. Johnson's intent from his actions of waiting for Miles and Davis to leave the Bar, pulling up behind Miller's vehicle, with a loaded pistol and loaded cartridge to insert in the pistol. Of Course, I am assuming that the video shows Miller's account to be accurate, which TPD seems to say it does. I am reminded that there is an old saying "that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." While I would not call Davis a good guy, I am fairly confident that had Davis not had access to a weapon that Davis, Miles and possibly Miller would be dead or severely injured right now. I am of the opinion that, if the facts are accurate, Harris knew what was coming down and voluntarily participated. If the facts are true, as alleged, then the worst that is going to happen is that Davis will get a manslaughter conviction, which means Miles will walk away with the attorneys, when they leave the Courthouse.

I suspect that there is something in the video that has not been reported to the press and/or made public that affects the narrative. I do not know the reason, but absent that situation, I understand the charge against Davis and Miles. I also understand that there are defenses, which are available. What I do not understand, is why Johnson has not been charged?

Now other than the legal arguments, Once upon a time I was a Police Officer and once upon a time I popped beer tops to pay for college. I have been there at two in the morning, on many occasions in my younger days. You know when an incident is out of hand you need to call for Police assistance. TPD has very limited resources, so I do not know if they would have come to escort Miles and Davis to Miller's car, but you know when you are in trouble. Also, there are plenty of barkeeps that provide athletes free drinks to get them to come to the bar, so they can attract jock sniffers. There are also plenty of tough guys that want to impress the opposite sex by showing how tough they are, so they challenge athletes. I am not saying that is what happened, but it sure sounds like it.

Please excuse me, if I let all the facts come out before I cry for Ms. Harris. If the facts, as alleged are I accurate, I personally think there is a strong chance that she knew exactly what she was involved with and she was a willing participant. We will see if the facts prove me right.
 
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I can 100% say that anyone this outspoken about cancelling Brandon Miller and Nate Oats and little else to say regarding criminal activity of Johnson and all parties is both lacking in sense and motivated by things other than good/justice.
 
Maybe Nancy Grace should get involved! Then things will really go off the charts.
 
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