Nate Oats Post-game
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I am incredibly disappointed in Nate this year. Instead of taking responsibility for this teams shortcomings, he seems to deflect and claim they had a good year.
He definitely accentuated the positives ( big wins at the beginning ).
Bad losses
19-15 is not where he wanted to be … especially with the way the team could have played .
the staff missed on some talent … too may Holes and no depth that could be counted on
No real leadership on the floor, IMO. As season went on seemed to play more like an AAU team. Lots of crazy shot selections and increasing turnovers. Love our team and our coaches but honestly concerned about the rhetoric right now.
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I think our program will be in good shape under oats. This season definitely didn’t go the way we thought it could or wanted but keeping perspective is important. Oats definitely needs to evolve in some areas but I think some of our fans expect to see that evolution mid season and I just don’t know how realistic of an expectation that is.
some changes I would like to see
1. Mix up the defense some. Press, zone, 1-3-1 trap type stuff. I think with the right personnel I’m still good doing what we do 75% of the time, but teams were able to basically get whatever shots for whatever players they wanted on us. We tinkered with a zone early in conference play and it was disastrous and imo mid season isn’t the time to try completely new stuff. I’d like to see some new looks incorporated in the off-season
2. maybe this roster didn’t have the depth to be this way but… you want a core of your program to be relentless effort or whatever it is… whatever the hell you gotta do to get that out of 18-22 year olds, oats needs to figure that out. It’s his job and imo failed at that this season. If guys won’t give the effort consistently put a name tag on the end of the bench and let them sit there every game. Get on board or gtfo
3. Mid range shots. Don’t want to live by it, and still don’t want to see long two’s, but I think we have some guys coming in that can knock down the 10-14 foot shot and if we have the threat of taking those imo it will open up the rim a little bit. I understand oats premise in this system but gotta evolve a little bit within that system imo.
All that said, the program is in good condition with a really strong class coming in and a lot of guys going in the portal that would love to get a call from bama bc of oats system. Keep making the tournament, Try to get a 4 or better seed when we have teams capable of such, and our run will come
Also, not to just make excuses bc but we shouldn’t just blow off the fact that we lost Burnett in the off-season why would have started and likely been our best 2 way player, and losing JQ today couldn’t have been easy to overcome, even though you never know if Q is going to cost you the game or win it for you..
some changes I would like to see
1. Mix up the defense some. Press, zone, 1-3-1 trap type stuff. I think with the right personnel I’m still good doing what we do 75% of the time, but teams were able to basically get whatever shots for whatever players they wanted on us. We tinkered with a zone early in conference play and it was disastrous and imo mid season isn’t the time to try completely new stuff. I’d like to see some new looks incorporated in the off-season
2. maybe this roster didn’t have the depth to be this way but… you want a core of your program to be relentless effort or whatever it is… whatever the hell you gotta do to get that out of 18-22 year olds, oats needs to figure that out. It’s his job and imo failed at that this season. If guys won’t give the effort consistently put a name tag on the end of the bench and let them sit there every game. Get on board or gtfo
3. Mid range shots. Don’t want to live by it, and still don’t want to see long two’s, but I think we have some guys coming in that can knock down the 10-14 foot shot and if we have the threat of taking those imo it will open up the rim a little bit. I understand oats premise in this system but gotta evolve a little bit within that system imo.
All that said, the program is in good condition with a really strong class coming in and a lot of guys going in the portal that would love to get a call from bama bc of oats system. Keep making the tournament, Try to get a 4 or better seed when we have teams capable of such, and our run will come
Also, not to just make excuses bc but we shouldn’t just blow off the fact that we lost Burnett in the off-season why would have started and likely been our best 2 way player, and losing JQ today couldn’t have been easy to overcome, even though you never know if Q is going to cost you the game or win it for you..
Tidesports just posted an article on Twitter that said JQ was the only player who attended a voluntary shoot around last night and only 3 players attended a voluntary shoot around this morning. Hmmmmm? There is a serious problem somewhere inside that program.
Culture is an issue it seems? And that starts at the top. When the head coach blames the players publicly for every loss, you’re culture will suffer tremendously.
I’m not saying fire him. I’m saying he needs to learn a little more than he thinks he needs to. Take some time off from being the teacher and be the student.
Our football program is in DEEP shit for next year then
That’s Nick Saban. You’re beyond clueless if you compare Saban to Oats. Nick Saban has earned the right to say what he wants. He’s constantly taking up for his players. When he says anything remotely negative about the players, it’s usually after a win and he’s making a point. He doesn’t run around blaming the players every time he loses. And if anybody has ever earned the right to do that, he has. Nate Oats has not earned that right.
Players will run through a brick wall for a coach they admire and respect. No-showing is an indication of our players true feelings toward Oats IMO. I really can’t blame them because of the way he throws them under the bus after virtually every loss. He did it again today with these comments. They served no purpose and should’ve been left unsaid.
At least the players would run through a brick wall for him…. We might suck ass but they’d beat the shit out of a brick wall
Funny how Shack, a guy who seemed awfully close to not returning last season, and Gurley, a leader at Furhman who vanished in t-town, were so quick to announce their return 3 weeks ago. Could it be they have no use for Q?
Looks like Shack, Ellis and Gurley maybe. It can’t be a huge deal since non of the walk ons are there. Surely they’d be there if it was normal for a lot of them to come to these things.
If my boss asked me to show up to work on monday and I didn't, that's on me. Has nothing to do with my boss. If I come to work and don't do my job, that's on me not my boss. And yes I believe my boss has every reason to call me out. If he doesn't, I keep doing the same thing. There is nothing wrong with holding people accountable. The reason a lot of young people act the way they do today is because no one holds them accountable anymore. It's easier to coddle them and baby them and give them everything they want instead of holding them accountable. If you baby them they will remain a baby.
Totally agree, my Bama brother! Classic behavioral theory teaches it's "consequences" for actions and choices we make that shape behavior not "antecedents!" My dad always told me not to speed. However, it was not until I got a ticket ($104 that I had to pay when I was 18!) that I really started watching the Speed Limit. As a leader, we get the behaviors we accept!
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This is so much like 2013 with football with some of you guys, ready to call it for Saban. Oats just took a mixed bunch of guys, made them buy in to his system and swept the SEC. Ive said he needs to do better in half court offense but damn the dude has a top 5 class coming in that will fill immediate holes. Yall have gotta let him stack some classes before you start calling for his job. Id bet some of yall never have touched a fn basketball in your life.
