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[aggietider]

What does his comment mean about the ball sticking too much? If the offense involved motion and ball movement, id understand the comment. But since it’s just a high ball screen or 1 on 1 with the other people just standing still watching, I don’t exactly understand?

 

[Watson_2]

Too much dribbling and the ball staying on just one side of the court...

 

[aggietider]

Too much dribbling and the ball staying on just one side of the court...

How can the ball move if the other people are standing still and not open? That’s the issue. One guy with the ball and at least 3 guys standing still watching and one ball screener possibly. The ball isn’t going to reverse like that.

 

[Bocat69]

Even if it's not a motion offense you still can draw other defenders by beating your man off the dribble or high ball screens. Once the defense rotates the ball should be moving to the open man keeping the defense in recover mode. That's what he means by the ball sticking. The ball screens can happen anywhere on the court. I seen Bedioko screen for JD almost on the low block, the defenders switched. A sub six foot guard ended up on Bedioko, easy lob from JD for the bucket.

 

[aggietider]

Even if it's not a motion offense you still can draw other defenders by beating your man off the dribble or high ball screens. Once the defense rotates the ball should be moving to the open man keeping the defense in recover mode. That's what he means by the ball sticking. The ball screens can happen anywhere on the court. I seen Bedioko screen for JD almost on the low block, the defenders switched. A sub six foot guard ended up on Bedioko, easy lob from JD for the bucket.

Well if that’s the case and the ball is sticking, we need to adjust. That’s the issue. The entire half court offense revolves around a guard beating somebody off the dribble. If that doesn’t happen, it’s going to stick.

 

[Bocat69]

Well if that’s the case and the ball is sticking, we need to adjust. That’s the issue. The entire half court offense revolves around a guard beating somebody off the dribble. If that doesn’t happen, it’s going to stick.

Absolutely if were not creating mismatches with ball screens or knocking down open 3's when defenders help it's not going to look pretty. That's not the problem with this group though. JQ can get where ever he want's on the court. The rest of the guards are pretty good also. Knock down shots and this system is fine ( look at some of the big wins we've had ex. LSU last year) If your looking for a motion offense I suggest you look somewhere else. Recruit to the system ( players love it) and we'll be fine.

 

[aggietider]

Absolutely if were not creating mismatches with ball screens or knocking down open 3's when defenders help it's not going to look pretty. That's not the problem with this group though. JQ can get where ever he want's on the court. The rest of the guards are pretty good also. Knock down shots and this system is fine ( look at some of the big wins we've had ex. LSU last year) If your looking for a motion offense I suggest you look somewhere else. Recruit to the system ( players love it) and we'll be fine.

You just proved my point. They aren’t knocking down shots consistently enough. Nobody is saying sellout to motion and change the whole system. Just adjust and add more sets to get people like Shack the ball in favorable spots. And I’d hardly say JQ can get whatever he wants. He’s been pretty bad.

 

[N ALbamafan]

Like has been said. Once the guard gets downhill and the defense collapses the ball then swings to the open man. At that point when the defense tries to rotate to recover that player can either make a decision to swing the ball around to ‘outrun’ the defensive recovery or choose to not. He’s saying there’s open people ready but sometimes the player catching makes a decision to keep the ball and do it themselves which late in the shot clock is one thing but early if the extra pass is there usually that shot is more efficient.

 

[aggietider]

Like has been said. Once the guard gets downhill and the defense collapses the ball then swings to the open man. At that point when the defense tries to rotate to recover that player can either make a decision to swing the ball around to ‘outrun’ the defensive recovery or choose to not. He’s saying there’s open people ready but sometimes the player catching makes a decision to keep the ball and do it themselves which late in the shot clock is one thing but early if the extra pass is there usually that shot is more efficient.

You know why the player holds it? Bc when you’re wide open from 3 and don’t want to shoot it, there’s not much else to do. The system is 100% for layups and 3’s and if they take away layups and you can’t make enough of the 3’s, what’s the alternative?

 

[D Isaiah T Billings-Clyde7]

Perhaps there’s some execution issues from time to time that make the offense look like there is zero plan? I promise the game plan isnt “y’all go stand out there and shoot.” Literally every college basketball team ever is capable of going into wtf mode on offense.

 

[aggietider]

Perhaps there’s some execution issues from time to time that make the offense look like there is zero plan? I promise the game plan isnt “y’all go stand out there and shoot.” Literally every college basketball team ever is capable of going into wtf mode on offense.

That is the plan. It’s been that way for 3 years. The plan is space the floor, drive and kick. And the driver has to know where he can kick, so they pretty much stick to that spot. If that wasn’t the plan, we wouldn’t have done it the same way for 3 years.

 

[D Isaiah T Billings-Clyde7]

That is the plan. It’s been that way for 3 years. The plan is space the floor, drive and kick. And the driver has to know where he can kick, so they pretty much stick to that spot. If that wasn’t the plan, we wouldn’t have done it the same way for 3 years.

When we are running the offense to perfection the ball moves all over, and we get a ton of good looks around the basket bc of it. I’m a broken record but we are a pretty shitty 3 point shooting team that shoots a lot of 3s, but still manage to be top 15 in offensive efficiency in the country. There’s a plan and it works pretty dang well, but anyone can see when things get stagnant it’s putrid. I’m just saying that’s the case for anyone in college basketball regardless of system. For whatever reason it just happens a lot to CBB teams

 

[QB1]

What does his comment mean about the ball sticking too much? If the offense involved motion and ball movement, id understand the comment. But since it’s just a high ball screen or 1 on 1 with the other people just standing still watching, I don’t exactly understand?

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lots of selfishness on this team - particularly 2 upperclassmen guards who would rather drive into traps and contact than pass to an open teammate.