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Thoughts on Alabama’s Draw

Jordan Harper

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Dec 28, 2011
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I thought this was the most favorable draw of the #1 seeds. The 8/9 draw is the best of any of the regions. Neither team scares me as they’re bad away from home and have trouble scoring.

Getting UVA and Creighton as the 5/6 is best case too. I honestly could see one or both upset in the first round.

Overall I love the bracket. I wanted Baylor at the 3 and Arizona at the 2. Should make it to the second weekend and could be wild matchups with the quality mid majors in the bracket like Furman and Charleston.
 
I thought this was the most favorable draw of the #1 seeds. The 8/9 draw is the best of any of the regions. Neither team scares me as they’re bad away from home and have trouble scoring.

Getting UVA and Creighton as the 5/6 is best case too. I honestly could see one or both upset in the first round.

Overall I love the bracket. I wanted Baylor at the 3 and Arizona at the 2. Should make it to the second weekend and could be wild matchups with the quality mid majors in the bracket like Furman and Charleston.
Doesn't Arizona have an injured player?
 
I thought this was the most favorable draw of the #1 seeds. The 8/9 draw is the best of any of the regions. Neither team scares me as they’re bad away from home and have trouble scoring.

Getting UVA and Creighton as the 5/6 is best case too. I honestly could see one or both upset in the first round.

Overall I love the bracket. I wanted Baylor at the 3 and Arizona at the 2. Should make it to the second weekend and could be wild matchups with the quality mid majors in the bracket like Furman and Charleston.
Respectfully disagree. Both Maryland and WVU play good, hard defense and will force us to make tough shots. I think we'll win, but would have rather seen Iowa or FAU. Huggins ain't afraid of what we bring. We'll need to be at the top of our game offensively and defensively, and we'll need a vocal crowd.
 
Respectfully disagree. Both Maryland and WVU play good, hard defense and will force us to make tough shots. I think we'll win, but would have rather seen Iowa or FAU. Huggins ain't afraid of what we bring. We'll need to be at the top of our game offensively and defensively, and we'll need a vocal crowd.
West Virginia is 150th and lower in defense efficiency and points given up per game, so not very good defensively. Maryland is pretty good defensively though.
 
I thought this was the most favorable draw of the #1 seeds. The 8/9 draw is the best of any of the regions. Neither team scares me as they’re bad away from home and have trouble scoring.

Getting UVA and Creighton as the 5/6 is best case too. I honestly could see one or both upset in the first round.

Overall I love the bracket. I wanted Baylor at the 3 and Arizona at the 2. Should make it to the second weekend and could be wild matchups with the quality mid majors in the bracket like Furman and Charleston.
Both Maryland and WV will get after you on the defensive end. Bama should win but they will test Bama. I haven’t looked at the rest of the bracket to see who are the other 8/9 so I don’t have anything to compare to. As for getting UVA and Baylor, playing coaches that have won NCs is always a challenge.
 
I thought this was the most favorable draw of the #1 seeds. The 8/9 draw is the best of any of the regions. Neither team scares me as they’re bad away from home and have trouble scoring.

Getting UVA and Creighton as the 5/6 is best case too. I honestly could see one or both upset in the first round.

Overall I love the bracket. I wanted Baylor at the 3 and Arizona at the 2. Should make it to the second weekend and could be wild matchups with the quality mid majors in the bracket like Furman and Charleston.

The key to getting to the Final Four is knowing in sdvance that each game we play will not be at peak performance, that we’ll underperform in a a matchup, and that when our best game hits, that it’s against a team capable of beating us with our A game.

Similarly, you hope our opponents don’t bring a 70% shooting game while ours is 30%.

You watch a lot of Final Fours, you observe this.

The ‘82 team should have gone but it drew UNC in Raleigh, and the refs kept Ennis Whatley checked because of his mean stutter-step. Interesting how he made it through the SEC but ACC refs called him for traveling every time. Took him right out of the game. It was still a fairly close game. UNC went on to win the national title.

Our 86-‘87 team was as Final Four worthy as any the SEC produced. Great team. But it had the bad luck in drawing a Providence team in the Sweet 16 that was on absolute fire, and the Friars went to the Final Four instead.

There was another year where Bama could have made it but drew the Loyola-Marymount team that had lost its best player but played well over their heads in the game, and Bama lost.

Then the UCLA game a couple seasons back- UCLA was incredible with 3s, everything went in, yet Bama almost pulled it out. 10-seed UCLA went to the Final Four instead.

To get to the Final Four there is a good amount of luck and also factors beyond our control.

If Bama plays average and better for each matchup it has a very good chance unless they draw a team who can’t miss. Then we have to play our best game to overcome that.
 
Respectfully disagree. Both Maryland and WVU play good, hard defense and will force us to make tough shots. I think we'll win, but would have rather seen Iowa or FAU. Huggins ain't afraid of what we bring. We'll need to be at the top of our game offensively and defensively, and we'll need a vocal crowd.
Yeah they are both capable but they can’t sustain for 40 minutes I don’t think. Iowa can really score and so can FAU. Teams that can make it easy for themselves offensive is who scares me. I don’t see WVU or Maryland as that
 
The key to getting to the Final Four is knowing in sdvance that each game we play will not be at peak performance, that we’ll underperform in a a matchup, and that when our best game hits, that it’s against a team capable of beating us with our A game.

Similarly, you hope our opponents don’t bring a 70% shooting game while ours is 30%.

You watch a lot of Final Fours, you observe this.

The ‘82 team should have gone but it drew UNC in Raleigh, and the refs kept Ennis Whatley checked because of his mean stutter-step. Interesting how he made it through the SEC but ACC refs called him for traveling every time. Took him right out of the game. It was still a fairly close game. UNC went on to win the national title.

Our 86-‘87 team was as Final Four worthy as any the SEC produced. Great team. But it had the bad luck in drawing a Providence team in the Sweet 16 that was on absolute fire, and the Friars went to the Final Four instead.

There was another year where Bama could have made it but drew the Loyola-Marymount team that had lost its best player but played well over their heads in the game, and Bama lost.

Then the UCLA game a couple seasons back- UCLA was incredible with 3s, everything went in, yet Bama almost pulled it out. 10-seed UCLA went to the Final Four instead.

To get to the Final Four there is a good amount of luck and also factors beyond our control.

If Bama plays average and better for each matchup it has a very good chance unless they draw a team who can’t miss. Then we have to play our best game to overcome that.
This is one of the best BB posts of the year imop. Nobody in college BB was beating that Providence team that night. The Loyola game still bothers me, because we were the better team. We were crushing South Alabama in ‘89 at HT and lost. The next game would have been against the NC Michigan, who we matched up very well against.

But, on your luck note, and pulling out games you struggle in:
- That Providence team should of lost in regulation to a #14 seeded Austin Peay, and squeaked it out in OT, the game before, or who knows how far we advance?
- If we had won that Loyola game, we would have faced eventual NC UNLV, who was down the game before against Ball State, and just pulled out a 2 pt win.
- Most of us older college BB fans remember how NC State had basically lost in the 1st rd to Pepperdine in ‘83(down 8 with a minute left), where their best player, all time leading scorer, and 84% foul shooter missed two front end one on ones to give NC State a chance to drag them to overtime, win, and then go on to win the NC against a great Houston team.
- I watched the 1st rd game of 7th seed Villanova play 10th seed Dayton in ‘85. It was back and forth all game, where no one knew who was going to win, and I will never forget saying to my friend “why do we really care, neither of these teams have a chance to win it all”. Villanova won by one basket at the end, and then went on to beat one of the best college BB teams I ever saw play in Georgetown for the NC.
 
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The key to getting to the Final Four is knowing in sdvance that each game we play will not be at peak performance, that we’ll underperform in a a matchup, and that when our best game hits, that it’s against a team capable of beating us with our A game.

Similarly, you hope our opponents don’t bring a 70% shooting game while ours is 30%.

You watch a lot of Final Fours, you observe this.

The ‘82 team should have gone but it drew UNC in Raleigh, and the refs kept Ennis Whatley checked because of his mean stutter-step. Interesting how he made it through the SEC but ACC refs called him for traveling every time. Took him right out of the game. It was still a fairly close game. UNC went on to win the national title.

Our 86-‘87 team was as Final Four worthy as any the SEC produced. Great team. But it had the bad luck in drawing a Providence team in the Sweet 16 that was on absolute fire, and the Friars went to the Final Four instead.

There was another year where Bama could have made it but drew the Loyola-Marymount team that had lost its best player but played well over their heads in the game, and Bama lost.

Then the UCLA game a couple seasons back- UCLA was incredible with 3s, everything went in, yet Bama almost pulled it out. 10-seed UCLA went to the Final Four instead.

To get to the Final Four there is a good amount of luck and also factors beyond our control.

If Bama plays average and better for each matchup it has a very good chance unless they draw a team who can’t miss. Then we have to play our best game to overcome that.
Totally agree. Its a crap shoot. Shooting a little off.play a team w/ nothing to lose and a couple really good athletes and they shoot out of their minds. Game stays tight. Then we get tight and BOOM. You're out on your ass round 1/2
 
Well I take back everything I just posted. Maybe I’m just assuming they would be good because they usually are.
I saw them beat UAB by 2 and then get a big lead on AU..

I think either is a tough draw but very winnable.

I think the b12 is a good league, better than the big10.

Id rather get the terps
 
I will say this, being a favorite to win it all is exciting but also miserable. In the past you just hoped the make a run in the tourney, now you’re worried about being upset.

Yep. Anything short of a final 8 will be un-acceptable. I don't have on Crimson glasses and think Bama is un-beatable. But I do think it should not happen before the final 8 based on the bracket they have. Arizona, Texas, UCLA, Duke, Kansas, Gonzaga, Houston, Purdue, Marquette, UConn and probably several more all legit contenders that Bama would not beat in the past. Time will tell if this team is different.
 
Yep. Anything short of a final 8 will be un-acceptable. I don't have on Crimson glasses and think Bama is un-beatable. But I do think it should not happen before the final 8 based on the bracket they have. Arizona, Texas, UCLA, Duke, Kansas, Gonzaga, Houston, Purdue, Marquette, UConn and probably several more all legit contenders that Bama would not beat in the past. Time will tell if this team is different.
I don’t think it’s “unacceptable”. It’ll be disappointing, but it’ll never be deemed a failure or anything. I think if you say it’s a failure or along those lines then you lose sight of what they accomplished this season and forget about it. The tournament is unpredictable and the best team rarely wins. A #1 overall hasn’t won it all since 2008 I believe. Just enjoy the ride and don’t worry about upsets
 
I don’t think it’s “unacceptable”. It’ll be disappointing, but it’ll never be deemed a failure or anything. I think if you say it’s a failure or along those lines then you lose sight of what they accomplished this season and forget about it. The tournament is unpredictable and the best team rarely wins. A #1 overall hasn’t won it all since 2008 I believe. Just enjoy the ride and don’t worry about upsets
Dis-appointing would probably been a better choice of wording. But final 8 to final 4 would be the expectation with this team for sure.
 
I don’t think it’s “unacceptable”. It’ll be disappointing, but it’ll never be deemed a failure or anything. I think if you say it’s a failure or along those lines then you lose sight of what they accomplished this season and forget about it. The tournament is unpredictable and the best team rarely wins. A #1 overall hasn’t won it all since 2008 I believe. Just enjoy the ride and don’t worry about upsets
The positive, is that, a 1 seed has won the NC the last 5 years. That said, anyone who has ever watched these NCAA tournaments for a period of time realize almost anything can happen. No question it was as successful a regular season as I have ever witnessed from an Alabama BB team. We also won the SEC tournament, which is an accomplishment. BUT, whether we lose in the 2nd rd, or in the Finals, I will be vastly disappointed. I always laugh when I hear people say if we just make it to the Final 4 I will be happy. As if we lost in the Final 4, or the NC finals, they would be less heart broken than losing a game or two earlier. A successful season? No doubt. If we don’t win it all will I be very disappointed? Just like with our football team when they are ranked 1, yes I will be. Sorry, just my thoughts.
 
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The positive, is that, a 1 seed has won the NC the last 5 years. That said, anyone who has ever watched these NCAA tournaments for a period of time realize almost anything can happen. No question it was as successful a regular season as I have ever witnessed from an Alabama BB team. We also won the SEC tournament, which is an accomplishment. BUT, whether we lose in the 2nd rd, or in the Finals, I will be vastly disappointed. I always laugh when I hear people say if we just make it to the Final 4 I will be happy. As if we lost in the Final 4, or the NC finals, they would be less heart broken than losing a game or two earlier. A successful season? No doubt. If we don’t win it all will I be very disappointed? Just like with our football team when they are ranked 1, yes I will be. Sorry, just my thoughts.
I hear you and I think most Alabama fans would be disappointed with a loss in the Final 4. But just making it to the Final 4 in CBB basketball is such an accomplishment because it is so hard to do, that it would be hard to look at the season as anything but a success. Winning a CBB National Championship is harder IMO than winning a CFB NC.
 
I hear you and I think most Alabama fans would be disappointed with a loss in the Final 4. But just making it to the Final 4 in CBB basketball is such an accomplishment because it is so hard to do, that it would be hard to look at the season as anything but a success. Winning a CBB National Championship is harder IMO than winning a CFB NC.
No question in my mind that winning the college BB NC is much tougher, regardless of the school, than winning the college football NC. A big difference in college BB is that you don’t have the Bryce Young’s and Will Anderson’s coming back(using Brandon Miller as the reference here). If Miller was coming back, I would feel a lot better about our chances next year, like I do after most football seasons. We, also, don’t have top 3 recruiting classes in BB every year, like we do in football, to fall back on knowing a new great wave of talent should be ready to play at a championship level. As I said, it has been a successful season, and sure it is more of an accomplishment the more you advance in a tournament, but I wouldn’t call any tournament play, especially as a 1 seed, truly successful if you don’t win it. Either way, I will be heartbroken if we lose, like I was in the 80’s and early 90’s with lessor teams, whether it is in the 2nd rd or in the the Finals. Just my feelings.
 
The basketball team (at least this year) is getting a taste of the expectations that are set for the football program year in and year out. My daughter is a student at UA and she has moaned "how bad we are" if they don't win a national championship every year. It's amazing to think how many other schools would love for one year to reach the levels Bama does on a regular basis in football. I hope basketball gets to that point because that means they are doing something right.

I thought it was interesting UNC declined the NIT. Not sure I fully embrace that decision but it's driven by program history and expectations. We're not there yet in basketball.
 
Disappointment is one thing. Devastated is another...
A loss in the first or second round would be devastating, a loss in the final four would just be a disappointment .
This is the best team I have ever seen hit the court for the Tide.
Lets just see how many we can win with how we play.
 
l'm disappointed anytime we lose a game. lt's been a great ride and l have enjoyed it so far. l'm pulling like hell for it to continue on.
 
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