Game thread: Alabama vs Western Kentucky

[jmillerbama]

This team F'n sucks! And this is exactly what Nate Oats gets! Just a week ago he ran he's stupid mouth to the greatest coach in college basketball history, embarrassed our program, and made himself look dumb as hell...... talking about Duke losing a few home games! Well guess what coach Oats your F'n team SUCKS and should have lost both home games this week! Maybe worry about Alabama and quit putting this Bull Shit product on the court every game!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😤😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😡🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Maybe we won't have to play against as many lottery picks.

Are we not playing UK? And that kid is not a lottery pick.

But having a lottery pick on your team does not guarantee wins, ask Kira Lewis.

 

[pwestbro61]

What the hell is Herb Jones doing bringing ball up the court twice in the last 2 minutes and never passing the ball and blowing 2 layups? Complete selfishness.
This team is going NOWHERE. There will be no tourney- again.I am officially done.

 

[aggietider]

Did Rojas and Gary foul out super early? I don't understand the rotations. I think Primo should probably become the guy. Everyone else has had their turn for years. He has more potential playing with one hand than Petty and Herb do with both hands.

 

[Sassy12]

disappointing. Petty not hitting is a killer and Herb having to play the point isn’t good. Move on to the next one. Short memories here is necessary.

Herb isn’t a point guard, he is an emergency point when the main point is resting. We don’t have a number one point guard is the problem. I thought Petty was playing this year to get to the NBA. I can’t imagine him going to a league team as he doesn’t have a strong skill set.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

What the hell is Herb Jones doing bringing ball up the court twice in the last 2 minutes and never passing the ball and blowing 2 layups? Complete selfishness.
This team is going NOWHERE. There will be no tourney- again.I am officially done.

No, you're not. I say the same thing and yet we will both be in the next gameday thread.

 

[aggietider]

What the hell is Herb Jones doing bringing ball up the court twice in the last 2 minutes and never passing the ball and blowing 2 layups? Complete selfishness.
This team is going NOWHERE. There will be no tourney- again.I am officially done.

The one at the end was a complete ISO. That was called. Stupid, but it was. But that's our entire offense anyway I guess. No motion, no movement off the ball.

 

[BaselineLeaner4]

Did Rojas and Gary foul out super early? I don't understand the rotations. I think Primo should probably become the guy. Everyone else has had their turn for years. He has more potential playing with one hand than Petty and Herb do with both hands.

I agree. I'll never understand our rotations

 

[pwestbro61]

I actually like this team. But herb has some of the worst decision making of any ball handler I've seen in the last decade

Herb is selfish at the wrong times trying to prove he can play in the league. Just proved again today why he will not.

 

[BamaLegacy]

Fun game...

 

[aggietider]

Are we not playing UK? And that kid isbr a lottery pick.

But having a lottery pick on your team does not guarantee wins, ask Kira Lewis.

I don't know which kid. But Kentucky isn't exactly lighting the world on fire right now. I don't think the SEC is just that good as a whole, which was more of my line of thinking.

 

[pwestbro61]

Bama basketball- the gift that just keeps on giving.

 

[BaselineLeaner4]

Everyone complaining about Herb.. I get it BUT what else are we supposed to do? We have no structure on offense and no one else is playing any better than herb on offense

 

[pwestbro61]

I actually like this team. But herb has some of the worst decision making of any ball handler I've seen in the last decade

20 wins ( as you predicted) is NOT happening. I am now really questioning Oats abilities.

 

[gdh1954]

Did Rojas and Gary foul out super early? I don't understand the rotations. I think Primo should probably become the guy. Everyone else has had their turn for years. He has more potential playing with one hand than Petty and Herb do with both hands.

Man .... what you said times a million. Reese should never see the floor unless it’s an emergency because of foul trouble or something. I really don’t understand not giving those two guys more minutes after the effort they gave the last game. I’m really irritated with that loss but I’m still not even close to giving up on this team. I see them slowly, and I’m emphasizing the word SLOWLY, but slowly playing a little better. Still gotta clean up the turnovers, shoot better from 3 and free throws. And I freaking love Herb but he’s got to start making better decisions with the ball if he’s going to keep playing point

 

[PlaidandParquet]

Only saw it once but that was not goaltending was it?

 

[aggietider]

Everyone complaining about Herb.. I get it BUT what else are we supposed to do? We have no structure on offense and no one else is playing any better than herb on offense

I'm complaining about the ISO on the last possession. Herb should have dunked the wide open layup he blew. But that last just straight ISO with the game literally on the line...awful. I'd love some motion and such, but we never get that. If I'm giving it to someone in an ISO, I think I'd just give it to Primo. Give him more opportunity. I've seen enough of what these older guys can do.

 

[aggietider]

Only saw it once but that was not goaltending was it?

Yes it was.

 

[PlaidandParquet]

We had ZERO fast break points

 

[PlaidandParquet]

Yes it was.

Why and how?

 

[pwestbro61]

Only saw it once but that was not goaltending was it?

Yes it was. Right call.

 

[cpat4bama]

Yes it was. Right call.

Yep just sucks the players thought it was a tie game it seemed like anyway.

 

[PlaidandParquet]

Yes it was. Right call.

What happened?

 

[pwestbro61]

No, you're not. I say the same thing and yet we will both be in the next gameday thread.

I have decided I will be happier not watching this fruitless load of garbage. Has taken me a long time to get to this point but I am done. Many people will probably be happy with this decision.

 

[mr4bama]

What happened?

it hit the backboard before he blocked it.

 

[aggietider]

Why and how?

He blocked it after it hit the backboard

 

[100%Bama]

Reaping what UA administration has sowed for 25 years. Oats will need several years to bootstrap this program to one that is watchable, but it is not now. I hope Oats can succeed at UA, he’s a maybe at best, but that’s better than an absolutely no way. Believing in UA basketball right now is like the Dumb and Dumber “so you’re sayin’ I got a chance” scene. I’m pulling for Oats, but can’t watch this team right now because I must protect my mental health.

 

[PlaidandParquet]

He blocked it after it hit the backboard

The one time I saw it I did not think it hit the backboard 1st period I have to go back and look at it again I guess I'm sure you guys are right

 

[PlaidandParquet]

Reaping what UA administration has sowed for 25 years. Oats will need several years to bootstrap this program to one that is watchable, but it is not now. I hope Oats can succeed at UA, he’s a maybe at best, but that’s better than an absolutely no way. Believing in UA basketball right now is like the Dumb and Dumber “so you’re sayin’ I got a chance” scene. I’m pulling for Oats, but can’t watch this team right now because I must protect my mental health.

The Coleman Curse

 

[aggietider]

The one time I saw it I did not think it hit the backboard 1st period I have to go back and look at it again I guess I'm sure you guys are right

They showed it up close, maybe in slower motion. Definitely hit the backboard first. But that wasn’t the issue. The issue was it was off an offensive rebound.

 

[PlaidandParquet]

They showed it up close, maybe in slower motion. Definitely hit the backboard first. But that wasn’t the issue. The issue was it was off an offensive rebound.

Or maybe the issue was the guy was able just to drive straight to the rim in crunch time to get the initial shot off

 

[aggietider]

Or maybe the issue was the guy was able just to drive straight to the rim in crunch time to get the initial shot off

Oh, I thought that was just our defensive strategy since we do that all of the time.

 

[mtmax]

It was goaltending but I thought the shot clock went off before it was shot?

 

[pwestbro61]

It was goaltending but I thought the shot clock went off before it was shot?

Ball hit rim on previous shot- clock reset.

 

[TideFever]

Bama basketball is what it is unfortunately and that's a letdown. Every single time. Every time hope builds we don't just fall short we completely crap ourselves. All the hype and great recruits and transfers and talk of not just a tourney invite but a great seed and when time comes to take care of business we look like a team Oats picked up at the rec center and had a couple 1 hr practices to let them get to know each other. I mean seriously, have we practiced any? When we do are they working anything other than one on one hero ball?

When we let their #4 tomahawk jam over us late in the second half and no one among 3 defenders wanted any part of at least hammering him to the free throw line I knew we were toast. Softest defense. Then that was followed by giving their big man easy plays.

I think this can still be a good team but Oats has to figure out what he wants it to be. For all the talk about being fast and shooting volume and whatnot we've let 3 or 4 teams now just completely remove us from what we want to do and we end up plodding along with a miserable half court offense. Nothing about this team resembles what we had last season. I have to assume Lewis was everything for this team and not just the guy bringing the ball up the court.

To me the worst part of today was losing to that slimeball $tan$bury. I really wanted us to rip his team apart but we still look like a team that doesn't know what it wants to do an has no one leading them on the court.

 

[BaselineLeaner4]

Bama basketball is what it is unfortunately and that's a letdown. Every single time. Every time hope builds we don't just fall short we completely crap ourselves. All the hype and great recruits and transfers and talk of not just a tourney invite but a great seed and when time comes to take care of business we look like a team Oats picked up at the rec center and had a couple 1 hr practices to let them get to know each other. I mean seriously, have we practiced any? When we do are they working anything other than one on one hero ball?

When we let their #4 tomahawk jam over us late in the second half and no one among 3 defenders wanted any part of at least hammering him to the free throw line I knew we were toast. Softest defense. Then that was followed by giving their big man easy plays.

I think this can still be a good team but Oats has to figure out what he wants it to be. For all the talk about being fast and shooting volume and whatnot we've let 3 or 4 teams now just completely remove us from what we want to do and we end up plodding along with a miserable half court offense. Nothing about this team resembles what we had last season. I have to assume Lewis was everything for this team and not just the guy bringing the ball up the court.

To me the worst part of today was losing to that slimeball $tan$bury. I really wanted us to rip his team apart but we still look like a team that doesn't know what it wants to do an has no one leading them on the court.

Spot on. I never thought we’d miss Kira so much

 

[CrmsnTusk4]

I've had a day to digest this, so here are my overall thoughts of Oats.

Recruiting: So far has done a phenomenal job. No complaints in this area.

Philosophy: This is where things start to come off of the rails for me. Are we an exciting team to watch when things are clicking right on offense? Absolutely. When we're not hitting, it's ugly. Most successful coaches are not one dimensional. They teach their teams the basic fundamentals of offense, and they can play multiple styles if their opposition takes their Plan A away. So far from what I've seen, Oats can't adjust when we face a team that defends the 3 well. Get some actions going to get the ball in the paint. Not a ball screen every time, not an uncontrolled drive. GET A DAMN ACTION WITH SOMEONE AND HAVE SOMEONE FLASHING TO THE FREE THROW LINE. Go score, or kick it out once the defense collapses.

Defensively - Again, one dimensional. We solely rely on one style of defense in half court man-to-man. Several games last year, and the Texas A&M game comes to mind from last year. They killed is driving the lane all game. We stayed in man and kept getting beat to the basket. Not one time did we go to a zone to pack the lane against a very poor shooting A&M team. Supposedly we like to play this fast-paced style. For a team like WKU who slowed the game down, why don't we ever extend pressure via a half court trap, or full court man to speed them up? Make them play our style?

We're never going to win consistently with Oats. Teams only have to prepare for one thing on either end of the floor.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

 

[IgnatiusJacquesReilly]

I've had a day to digest this, so here are my overall thoughts of Oats.

Recruiting: So far has done a phenomenal job. No complaints in this area.

Philosophy: This is where things start to come off of the rails for me. Are we an exciting team to watch when things are clicking right on offense? Absolutely. When we're not hitting, it's ugly. Most successful coaches are not one dimensional. They teach their teams the basic fundamentals of offense, and they can play multiple styles if their opposition takes their Plan A away. So far from what I've seen, Oats can't adjust when we face a team that defends the 3 well. Get some actions going to get the ball in the paint. Not a ball screen every time, not an uncontrolled drive. GET A DAMN ACTION WITH SOMEONE AND HAVE SOMEONE FLASHING TO THE FREE THROW LINE. Go score, or kick it out once the defense collapses.

Defensively - Again, one dimensional. We solely rely on one style of defense in half court man-to-man. Several games last year, and the Texas A&M game comes to mind from last year. They killed is driving the lane all game. We stayed in man and kept getting beat to the basket. Not one time did we go to a zone to pack the lane against a very poor shooting A&M team. Supposedly we like to play this fast-paced style. For a team like WKU who slowed the game down, why don't we ever extend pressure via a half court trap, or full court man to speed them up? Make them play our style?

We're never going to win consistently with Oats. Teams only have to prepare for one thing on either end of the floor.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

We are not a very good team. We have athletes but either they are not being coached or they are not allowing themselves to be coached. I think it's a little too early to say which. I love Bama and I love Bama basketball but I have had to change the channels and watch something else or just get up and leave multiple times this year. I can't stand watching them miss layups and play such poor fundamental basketball.

Here's to hoping it gets better.

 

[pfaud001]

This team F'n sucks! And this is exactly what Nate Oats gets! Just a week ago he ran he's stupid mouth to the greatest coach in college basketball history, embarrassed our program, and made himself look dumb as hell...... talking about Duke losing a few home games! Well guess what coach Oats your F'n team SUCKS and should have lost both home games this week! Maybe worry about Alabama and quit putting this Bull Shit product on the court every game!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😤😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😡🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

Sorry to bump this old thread, but do you still hate Oats?

 

[Sweetlou10]

Sorry to bump this old thread, but do you still hate Oats?

@jmillerbama is a good bama dude and loyal basketball guy. We’ve all gotten frustrated with what we’ve watched for the last 16 years