Hunter Dickinson has entered the portal

[vegas man]

7-1 255 center at Michigan. This kid can defend the rim and shoot the three (and shoot free throws)

GP	MIN	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
34	32.7	56.0	42.1	72.7	9.0	1.5	1.8	0.5	1.9	2.0	18.5
32	32.3	56.3	32.8	80.2	8.6	2.3	1.5	0.5	2.7	2.0	18.6
28	24.9	59.8	0.0	73.9	7.4	0.9	1.4	0.3	2.5	2.3	14.1

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

Hmmm.......Is there any room for next year. I think he has one year left.

 

[Vaughnbama]

He is a great player with more offense ability than Bediako. That being said I would rather have Bediako.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

7-1 255 center at Michigan. This kid can defend the rim and shoot the three (and shoot free throws)

GP	MIN	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
34	32.7	56.0	42.1	72.7	9.0	1.5	1.8	0.5	1.9	2.0	18.5
32	32.3	56.3	32.8	80.2	8.6	2.3	1.5	0.5	2.7	2.0	18.6
28	24.9	59.8	0.0	73.9	7.4	0.9	1.4	0.3	2.5	2.3	14.1

My only question would be does his style of play fits Nat Oats system? Because we all know Oats isn’t going to change his system to fit his players.

 

[RANGER520]

My only question would be does his style of play fits Nat Oats system? Because we all know Oats isn’t going to change his system to fit his players.

GOAT23 , How would You would have changed the system this year , I want to know, you seem to know a lot "……

 

[frazor]

GOAT23 , How would You would have changed the system this year , I want to know, you seem to know a lot "……

If you don't know @G.O.A.T-23 stance on Oats system then you havn't been paying attention. No offense. I don't agree with everything he says but you don't have to look much further than Noah Gurley for his point to be made. Gurley was a descent scorer at Furhman and has shown the ability to score with frequency down low. However, very little seems to have ever been done to fully utilize Gurley's talents in that regard. You'll find very few set plays over the past 3 years that were ran in hopes of getting the ball into the low post with a back to the basket.

 

[rsaxoniii]

This dude would be a good get

 

[lainey2020]

GOAT23 , How would You would have changed the system this year , I want to know, you seem to know a lot "……

l kinda like our system. Seems to help recruiting for one thing.

Plus being
31-6
18-0 in Coleman(pretty entertaining for home fans)
SEC Champs
SEC Tournament Champs

ROLL TIDE

 

[quickdraw22]

l kinda like our system. Seems to help recruiting for one thing.

Plus being
31-6
18-0 in Coleman(pretty entertaining for home fans)
SEC Champs
SEC Tournament Champs

ROLL TIDE

Agree. Some people bitch regardless.

 

[aggietider]

GOAT23 , How would You would have changed the system this year , I want to know, you seem to know a lot "……

He likes the idea of stopping to shoot a wide open mid range shot instead of driving the ball into a big man and getting the shot blocked.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

GOAT23 , How would You would have changed the system this year , I want to know, you seem to know a lot "……

Nick Saban is damn near 100 years old, had accomplished far more at Alabama alone than Oats will ever accomplish in his entire career, yet Saban is able to self elevate and grow each and every season.

Nate Oats will not even bother to add to his system to improve, or at least he hasn’t so far. He has a long contract to change that.

 

[GOBAMA100]

He is a great player with more offense ability than Bediako. That being said I would rather have Bediako.

You would pick bediako over a guy who averaged 18 and 9 and shoots 42 percent from 3. This guy will probably go to Duke and be in the final four next year. Bediako is a defensive player who gets in foul trouble averages 6 rebounds and six points a game while shooting 35 percent from the line. LOL LOL Why did bediako average 20 minutes a game duh

 

[cola68]

7-1 255 center at Michigan. This kid can defend the rim and shoot the three (and shoot free throws)

GP	MIN	FG%	3P%	FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
34	32.7	56.0	42.1	72.7	9.0	1.5	1.8	0.5	1.9	2.0	18.5
32	32.3	56.3	32.8	80.2	8.6	2.3	1.5	0.5	2.7	2.0	18.6
28	24.9	59.8	0.0	73.9	7.4	0.9	1.4	0.3	2.5	2.3	14.1

Id play him where Clowney played this year.

He’d be an asset on the pick and roll where he could be a screener and then the three point shooter

I hope he does not end up at AU

 

[RTRfromGA]

Nick Saban is damn near 100 years old, had accomplished far more at Alabama alone than Oats will ever accomplish in his entire career, yet Saban is able to self elevate and grow each and every season.

Nate Oats will not even bother to add to his system to improve, or at least he hasn’t so far. He has a long contract to change that.

Why do you continue to suggest that we should take worse shots? It's tiresome

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

Nick Saban is damn near 100 years old, had accomplished far more at Alabama alone than Oats will ever accomplish in his entire career, yet Saban is able to self elevate and grow each and every season.

Nate Oats will not even bother to add to his system to improve, or at least he hasn’t so far. He has a long contract to change that.

So basically you don't like analytics and his offense? Well, I guess we'll see if he can run "The Picket Fence", but not get caught watching the paint dry.

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

If you don't know @G.O.A.T-23 stance on Oats system then you havn't been paying attention. No offense. I don't agree with everything he says but you don't have to look much further than Noah Gurley for his point to be made. Gurley was a descent scorer at Furhman and has shown the ability to score with frequency down low. However, very little seems to have ever been done to fully utilize Gurley's talents in that regard. You'll find very few set plays over the past 3 years that were ran in hopes of getting the ball into the low post with a back to the basket.

That's because the offense is a "read and react" offense and not offense where the point guard comes down and calls the play based on the defense.

 

[aggietider]

That's because the offense is a "read and react" offense and not offense where the point guard comes down and calls the play based on the defense.

Man come on. This is not read and react. This is a ball screen offense in the half court. That’s it. Every offense in the world has some “read and react.”

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

Man come on. This is not read and react. This is a ball screen offense in the half court. That’s it. You can call any offense read and react the way you’re using it.

It is, but have it your way.

 

[aggietider]

It is, but have it your way.

Haha. A guy has the ball. Another guy sets a ball screen and the other 3 have spots to stand and space. That is not read and react.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Why do you continue to suggest that we should take worse shots? It's tiresome

So you think stopping to take a WIDE OPEN mid-range shot is a worse shot than taking it into a 6-10 to 7’0 shot blocker waiting at the rim for you? Ok, Nate

 

[pfaud001]

Nick Saban is damn near 100 years old, had accomplished far more at Alabama alone than Oats will ever accomplish in his entire career, yet Saban is able to self elevate and grow each and every season.

Nate Oats will not even bother to add to his system to improve, or at least he hasn’t so far. He has a long contract to change that.

Hold up. Saban has a process and playbook. It took a very long time before he tweaked it. He also coached for a very long time before he had a ton of success. Oats is still young and he still has much to learn. That doesn’t mean his process and playbook suck. He has won 2 SEC championships and won more games than any other Bama team ever. That is not with a cherry picked crap schedule. That is with one of the hardest schedules I have ever seen us play. Last year was probably the only one harder.

He has elevated the program to heights I have been dreaming of for a long time. Yes, I was disappointed in the finish, but I don’t get the hate. If the murder doesn’t happen, I believe we would have won it all.

 

[mtmax]

Excellent post pfaud!

 

[quickdraw22]

Hold up. Saban has a process and playbook. It took a very long time before he tweaked it. He also coached for a very long time before he had a ton of success. Oats is still young and he still has much to learn. That doesn’t mean his process and playbook suck. He has won 2 SEC championships and won more games than any other Bama team ever. That is not with a cherry picked crap schedule. That is with one of the hardest schedules I have ever seen us play. Last year was probably the only one harder.

He has elevated the program to heights I have been dreaming of for a long time. Yes, I was disappointed in the finish, but I don’t get the hate. If the murder doesn’t happen, I believe we would have won it all.

I think goat23 is a big Bruce Pearl fan the one that gets knocked in the 2nd round with 2 first round picks playing.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Hold up. Saban has a process and playbook. It took a very long time before he tweaked it. He also coached for a very long time before he had a ton of success. Oats is still young and he still has much to learn. That doesn’t mean his process and playbook suck. He has won 2 SEC championships and won more games than any other Bama team ever. That is not with a cherry picked crap schedule. That is with one of the hardest schedules I have ever seen us play. Last year was probably the only one harder.

He has elevated the program to heights I have been dreaming of for a long time. Yes, I was disappointed in the finish, but I don’t get the hate. If the murder doesn’t happen, I believe we would have won it all.

So you’re saying he has to get older to learn from his mistakes? He can’t learn from watching on of the best coaches in any sport do what he does. Saban has a process, that’s the foundation to everything he does. He’s not tied to a system that he refuses to evolve in any way.

He’s done great for Alabama, but is it wrong to have an expectation of more? This was as good of an opportunity as any team has ever had to make it’s first final four and he shit the bed.

 

[winin11]

troll

 

[RTRfromGA]

So you think stopping to take a WIDE OPEN mid-range shot is a worse shot than taking it into a 6-10 to 7’0 shot blocker waiting at the rim for you? Ok, Nate

Yes. Also, we took more mid range shots this year than any year prior.

 

[quickdraw22]

A

troll

g

 

[quickdraw22]

Agree

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Yes. Also, we took more mid range shots this year than any year prior.

That’s dumb, really dumb and the reason Alabama has been sitting at home since last Saturday while SDSU is playing for a National Championship on Monday.

 

[quickdraw22]

That’s dumb, really dumb and the reason Alabama has been sitting at home since last Saturday while SDSU is playing for a National Championship on Monday.

Troll

 

[BAMACOASTIE]

I am proud of what this team accomplished this year. I wish they could have gone all the way but it wasn't in the books. I love Nate Oats. Is he perfect? No, he is not but nobody is. I will say this about his system on offense. I think shooting some mid-range jump shots would keep the defense on their toes more. Right now, teams know that when our players drive to the basket they are not going to stop and take a jump shot. So all the defenders have to do is rim protect or stand in position to take a charge. If you add a mid-range jump shot, it's another thing they have worry about. You don't have to take a lot of them. If you are having a hard time getting to the rim this could loosen up the defense up a bit. I don't care about the analytics. In football if the running game isn't working very well you don't just stop running it. That would make you one dimensional. Teams tore us up with the jump shot this year because we refused to defend it. We expect our players to be great at shooting free throws but during live play they are not allowed to shoot from the free throw line even though they are 80% while shooting free throws. I know it's different with a player defending but the distance is the same. Giving our player more options on offense and giving the defense more to worry about is what it would do.

 

[cola68]

Everyone I read on this bball board is proud of this team .. but the system and the coaches/players are not above reproach or discussion about the evolution of Oats’ offense.

if this team is truly a “read and react” offense , then isn’t it fair to say that JQ should have read that his shot would be blocked if he continues to attempt to lay it up.

By extension, would it not be appropriate to say that a fair “reaction” would have been a the floater or mid range jump shot before Jq dribbled into the teeth of the SDSU shot blockers or even better kicking the ball out to a bona fide three point shooter ?

Idk @G.O.A.T-23 but my humble opinion is that he believes adding this mid range shot (when appropriate) will improve an already outstanding offensive system.

 

[michael1965]

I’m not so sure CNO is adverse to floaters inside the ft line if the shooter can make that shot at a 50% clip. I’ve seen Miller, JQ and Rylan shoot them, just not that often or that successfully.

 

[T_WIGS]

Nick Saban is damn near 100 years old, had accomplished far more at Alabama alone than Oats will ever accomplish in his entire career, yet Saban is able to self elevate and grow each and every season.

Nate Oats will not even bother to add to his system to improve, or at least he hasn’t so far. He has a long contract to change that.

Be careful lumping Nate Oats and Nick Saban together especially this early in oats career.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Everyone I read on this bball board is proud of this team .. but the system and the coaches/players are not above reproach or discussion about the evolution of Oats’ offense.

if this team is truly a “read and react” offense , then isn’t it fair to say that JQ should have read that his shot would be blocked if he continues to attempt to lay it up.

By extension, would it not be appropriate to say that a fair “reaction” would have been a the floater or mid range jump shot before Jq dribbled into the teeth of the SDSU shot blockers or even better kicking the ball out to a bona fide three point shooter ?

Idk @G.O.A.T-23 but my humble opinion is that he believes adding this mid range shot (when appropriate) will improve an already outstanding offensive system.

Exactly, I’m in no way saying Oats should go, or that he’s not a very good coach. Nor I’m I saying he should abandon system, just add to what you already are doing.

 

[stewy010203]

Hold up. Saban has a process and playbook. It took a very long time before he tweaked it. He also coached for a very long time before he had a ton of success. Oats is still young and he still has much to learn. That doesn’t mean his process and playbook suck. He has won 2 SEC championships and won more games than any other Bama team ever. That is not with a cherry picked crap schedule. That is with one of the hardest schedules I have ever seen us play. Last year was probably the only one harder.

He has elevated the program to heights I have been dreaming of for a long time. Yes, I was disappointed in the finish, but I don’t get the hate. If the murder doesn’t happen, I believe we would have won it all.

I agree with everything you said except the last sentence in your post. It is becoming even more apparent there was no murder. Time and evidence will show a person was unfortunately killed, but it was done in self defense. Shooting back only after be shot at first. The media and blood sucking sport parasites like Clay Travis, the Canadian and his far left liberal co host on ESPN and others like them are the ones that created the murder narrative. Very disappointed in Jim Nance for carrying the CBS torch and attacking Brandon Miller throughout the NCAA Tournament. Used to think more highly of him. Glad SEC is cutting ties with CBS and wouldn't mind seeing the SEC telling ESPN to stick it you know where. Just my opinion.

 

[OatsMeal]

That’s dumb, really dumb and the reason Alabama has been sitting at home since last Saturday while SDSU is playing for a National Championship on Monday.

Alabama is sitting at home because they played poorly and didn't execute, not due to lack of midrange shots.

 

[RTRfromGA]

That’s dumb, really dumb and the reason Alabama has been sitting at home since last Saturday while SDSU is playing for a National Championship on Monday.

No it isn't and you're dumb for thinking that. We couldn't shoot. We couldn't hit a shot. That's why we lost. Saying we should have shot more analytically bad shots wasn't going to win us the game. If we shot like 15% from 3 we win that game. What would you have complained about in that instance?

 

[quickdraw22]

No it isn't and you're dumb for thinking that. We couldn't shoot. We couldn't hit a shot. That's why we lost. Saying we should have shot more analytically bad shots wasn't going to win us the game. If we shot like 15% from 3 we win that game. What would you have complained about in that instance?

Excellent post

 

[vegas man]

If we shot like 15% from 3 we win that game. What would you have complained about in that instance?

Kind of sad isn't it? All we have to do is hit 15-20% of our threes and we probably win. Just 15-20%. Instead, we shoot 11%.