JQ part of the “I am #NotNCAAProperty” Protest

[cpat4bama]

Several college basketball players participating in the men’s NCAA tournament joined a protest on social media against the NCAA as its signature event was set to begin, criticizing college sports’ governing body for not allowing athletes to be compensated for the use of their names, images and likenesses.


“The NCAA OWNS my name image and likeness,” Rutgers guard Geo Baker said Wednesday night on Twitter. “Someone on [a] music scholarship can profit from an album. Someone on academic scholarship can have a tutor service. For [people] who say ‘an athletic scholarship is enough,’ anything less than equal rights is never enough.
“I am #NotNCAAProperty.”



The hashtag quickly gained steam on Wednesday, with Baker’s teammate Ron Harper Jr. agreeing. Alabama’s Jahvon Quinerly tweeted his experience with NCAA restrictions. Livers, Bohannon, Virginia Tech’s Wabissa Bede and Cordell Pemsl, and Wichita State’s Dexter Dennis were other players who joined the conversation.
“Though I am completely focused on competing with my teammates going forward, I must say since it is a topic of discussion, the NCAA has not allowed me or my brothers to profit off our GLOBAL ‘JellyFam’ movement that took social media by storm years ago,” Quinerly tweeted. “This is a movement that has the potential to not only put ourselves in better positions financially but our families as well. Meanwhile, people were able to make their own profits off our movement since we could do nothing with it in order to keep our NCAA eligibility alive. #NotNCAAproperty”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/03/18/not-ncaa-property/%3foutputType=amp

 

[Vaughnbama]

Let's be honest, the NCAA is making $3.3 Billion off of the talent of roughly 1,000 young men that they are locking up for one to three weeks, away from any contact with the world, except on the Basketball Court. This is not like the NBA bubble, where the players were paid well to be in the bubble.

This is the NCAA's main event for fund raising and most of the players will receive nothing.

I totally understand where the players are coming from and being in the same position, I would probably go into the bubble; however, $3.3 Billion is a large sum to be keeping from the work and sacrifice of young me. Most of these young men will receive no pro contracts, no endorsements, and no renumeration for their sacrifice, other than probably ten t0 fourteen will get to say they were once a champion. Not one of these players signed up to be confined in a hotel room for three weeks, away from friends, family and loved ones.

I support the athletes.

 

[cpat4bama]

Let's be honest, the NCAA is making $3.3 Billion off of the talent of roughly 1,000 young men that they are locking up for one to three weeks, away from any contact with the world, except on the Basketball Court. This is not like the NBA bubble, where the players were paid well to be in the bubble.

This is the NCAA's main event for fund raising and most of the players will receive nothing.

I totally understand where the players are coming from and being in the same position, I would probably go into the bubble; however, $3.3 Billion is a large sum to be keeping from the work and sacrifice of young me. Most of these young men will receive no pro contracts, no endorsements, and no renumeration for their sacrifice, other than probably ten t0 fourteen will get to say they were once a champion. Not one of these players signed up to be confined in a hotel room for three weeks, away from friends, family and loved ones.

I support the athletes.

I’m torn. Part of me thinks well they get a free education and that is a lot of money in itself. Then I think about how much money the NCAA makes off them and how big of a joke they are.

 

[bryantdenney]

The NCAA is a modern day plantation.

 

[oslim]

it will end recruiting as we know it. the schools with the riches boosters will promise the top players jobs in advertising or what ever. lets say jimmy raines will make a commercial for yellow with a group of top kids. same with PBJR

it will also only benefit the top players in jersy sales etc.. it will cause problems in the locker rooms. some kids getting big money and some getting nothing.

 

[pwestbro61]

Let's be honest, the NCAA is making $3.3 Billion off of the talent of roughly 1,000 young men that they are locking up for one to three weeks, away from any contact with the world, except on the Basketball Court. This is not like the NBA bubble, where the players were paid well to be in the bubble.

This is the NCAA's main event for fund raising and most of the players will receive nothing.

I totally understand where the players are coming from and being in the same position, I would probably go into the bubble; however, $3.3 Billion is a large sum to be keeping from the work and sacrifice of young me. Most of these young men will receive no pro contracts, no endorsements, and no renumeration for their sacrifice, other than probably ten t0 fourteen will get to say they were once a champion. Not one of these players signed up to be confined in a hotel room for three weeks, away from friends, family and loved ones.

I support the athletes.

Where did you get that $3.3 billion number? Not sure that is remotely correct.

 

[nelsontaylor555]

The reason this has become such a big deal is the conditions of the bubble. I’ve heard the hotels and meals are trash. If they aren’t going to pay the players the least they could due is give them good meals and a nice place to stay. Hard to swallow as a player knowing how much MCAA makes off of this.

 

[pwestbro61]

The reason this has become such a big deal is the conditions of the bubble. I’ve heard the hotels and meals are trash. If they aren’t going to pay the players the least they could due is give them good meals and a nice place to stay. Hard to swallow as a player knowing how much MCAA makes off of this.

Those hotels are some of the biggest in Indy. Hard for me to believe they are that bad. Food could be another issue.

 

[childoftheKing]

The players are being paid. Free ride, a free college degree which most people have to pay out their rear ends to get. Free food, free housing, free books, free everything. And the kicker is they don't even have to be able to spell their own names, or be able to complete a full sentence. Our society has become ass backwards, wanting to reward people that don't deserve it, and charging those that do an ungodly amount of money. My gosh all they are doing is playing a sport. I haven't seen one of them yet do anything that effects the world in a positive way. If they deserve everything free in life because they can play with a ball, than so does the person who actually has to study their tail off to be successful. I'm not trying to knock anyone in particular, I just don't agree at all that the players who are getting a free ride in life already should be shown preferential treatment because they can play with a ball. JMO

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Let's be honest, the NCAA is making $3.3 Billion off of the talent of roughly 1,000 young men that they are locking up for one to three weeks, away from any contact with the world, except on the Basketball Court. This is not like the NBA bubble, where the players were paid well to be in the bubble.

This is the NCAA's main event for fund raising and most of the players will receive nothing.

I totally understand where the players are coming from and being in the same position, I would probably go into the bubble; however, $3.3 Billion is a large sum to be keeping from the work and sacrifice of young me. Most of these young men will receive no pro contracts, no endorsements, and no renumeration for their sacrifice, other than probably ten t0 fourteen will get to say they were once a champion. Not one of these players signed up to be confined in a hotel room for three weeks, away from friends, family and loved ones.

I support the athletes.

I have been saying this for years now. When it comes to football, I broke down the amount a program like Alabama spends on all their football players for a year. I included the food, the housing, their schooling, and so on and compared it to what the University brings in each year off football. It was a drop in the bucket to the 100 plus million dollars that is made off these players.

It's also why I could care less if a player decides not to play in a bowl game that will only help other people get richer; instead they worry about their future and being able to profit off their hard word.

 

[Vaughnbama]

Where did you get that $3.3 billion number? Not sure that is remotely correct.

My bad, the present contract is $10.8 Billion over something like 14 years. This year it amounts to around $840 million.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

The players are being paid. Free ride, a free college degree which most people have to pay out their rear ends to get. Free food, free housing, free books, free everything. And the kicker is they don't even have to be able to spell their own names, or be able to complete a full sentence. Our society has become ass backwards, wanting to reward people that don't deserve it, and charging those that do an ungodly amount of money. My gosh all they are doing is playing a sport. I haven't seen one of them yet do anything that effects the world in a positive way. If they deserve everything free in life because they can play with a ball, than so does the person who actually has to study their tail off to be successful. I'm not trying to knock anyone in particular, I just don't agree at all that the players who are getting a free ride in life already should be shown preferential treatment because they can play with a ball. JMO

Have you ever taken the time to add up everything you just mentioned and compare it to the amount of money being made off these players?

Seriously, compare it to the money being made by “just playing sport” for all the people around them that are not putting in nearly the hard work to make all of this happen.

Think about this, let's just say everything you mentioned equates to 100k per player a year. For football alone that's just 850k a year, even if you estimate a few more thousands of dollars for each player, they're still spending roughly a million dollars a year. Some position coaches are making that.

Alabama brings in over 100 million dollars a year off of football. That's not even including the people that at adjacent to the program that are profiting from sports.

To top it off the greedy MFers doesn't even want players to go out and profit off their own name and likeness, something that isn't even coming out of their fat pockets...

 

[cpat4bama]

Have you ever taken the time to add up everything you just mentioned and compare it to the amount of money being made off these players?

Seriously, compare it to the money being made by “just playing sport” for all the people around them that are not putting in nearly the hard work to make all of this happen.

Think about this, let's just say everything you mentioned equates to 100k per player a year. For football alone that's just 850k a year, even if you estimate a few more thousands of dollars for each player, they're still spending roughly a million dollars a year. Some position coaches are making that.

Alabama brings in over 100 million dollars a year off of football. That's not even including the people that at adjacent to the program that are profiting from sports.

To top it off the greedy MFers doesn't even want players to go out and profit off their own name and likeness, something that isn't even coming out of their fat pockets...

Exactly

 

[shake_weight]

You pay football and basketball players, you need to pay all college athletes

Will be the end of competition from smaller schools

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

You pay football and basketball players, you need to pay all college athletes

Will be the end of competition from smaller schools

That is the problem with everyone wanting to make all things equal; that's not real life and never will be. It cost more money to attend Harvard University or Duke than it does Alabama; their scholarship is worth more than the scholarship that Alabama players are getting who qualify to go there.

Well Alabama brings in more money from their athletics department, so they can afford to pay more to players who qualify to go to Alabama.

A fortune 500 company can afford to pay their workers and CEOs more than I could if I owned a corner store.

So players at Alabama St. don't get the same amount as a player at Alabama. That's happening anyway with all the other things Alabama can afford to do for their athletes that Alabama St. can't.

 

[cpat4bama]

That is the problem with everyone wanting to make all things equal; that's not real life and never will be. It cost more money to attend Harvard University or Duke than it does Alabama; their scholarship is worth more than the scholarship that Alabama players are getting who qualify to go there.

Well Alabama brings in more money from their athletics department, so they can afford to pay more to players who qualify to go to Alabama.

A fortune 500 company can afford to pay their workers and CEOs more than I could if I owned a corner store.

So players at Alabama St. don't get the same amount as a player at Alabama. That's happening anyway with all the other things Alabama can afford to do for their athletes that Alabama St. can't.

Fun fact about Alabama St. They get a million more in state funding then Alabama A&M. When my dad was in office he fought for them to get equal amounts in state funding. Of course it was shot down cause Alabama St. is in Montgomery so they are more favorable towards them. Of course that’s how most of the politics are. Central and South Alabama don’t want to give North Alabama any power at all.

 

[onebamamaniax]

No one forces these guys to sign with a college! They know what they're signing up for. Get an agent out of high school, do not sign with a college, train on their dime, or go over seas and see how that works out. Look how many companies make billions while workers make peanuts. If you don't think one player making more than another won't cause issues in the locker room then you don't understand society!

 

[oslim]

You pay football and basketball players, you need to pay all college athletes

Will be the end of competition from smaller schools

correct. athletic departments pay the school for all men and women schlorships. very few athletic departments make a profit.

most of the renovations to facilities are paid for by booster donations

 

[majorwood482]

What the school/ncaa makes on these kids, specially D1 athletes in power 5 conferences is way more than the cost of a bachelors degree.

 

[oslim]

by the way, most schools have around 300 kids on schlarship to pay the school for

if they make money of their likeness only the top players will make it. is that fair to the other kids in all sports. also the back up left gaurd gets nothing but the star QB makes a killing

 

[majorwood482]

The players are being paid. Free ride, a free college degree which most people have to pay out their rear ends to get. Free food, free housing, free books, free everything. And the kicker is they don't even have to be able to spell their own names, or be able to complete a full sentence. Our society has become ass backwards, wanting to reward people that don't deserve it, and charging those that do an ungodly amount of money. My gosh all they are doing is playing a sport. I haven't seen one of them yet do anything that effects the world in a positive way. If they deserve everything free in life because they can play with a ball, than so does the person who actually has to study their tail off to be successful. I'm not trying to knock anyone in particular, I just don't agree at all that the players who are getting a free ride in life already should be shown preferential treatment because they can play with a ball. JMO

Okay take what it cost for an education and subtract it from what the school makes off of them...see if you have any left. Anything the school does for these kids outside free classes is to try and get a return on their investment. All these nice facilities and new medical stuff Bama has is it really for the players? Or is it for the school to make sure they are in the best shape possible to win games (make money for the school). I will always side with the players.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

by the way, most schools have around 300 kids on schlarship to pay the school for

if they make money of their likeness only the top players will make it. is that fair to the other kids in all sports. also the back up left gaurd gets nothing but the star QB makes a killing

That the way life works. College is supposed to prepare you for the real world; this is a valuable lesson for them. Work harder to be in the spot that starter is in.

 

[StablerCountry]

The big problem will be how does a team let them profit off their image and keep it under control? Say the NCAA determines each player will get a certain percentage of the profits from say the 100 million Bama makes off football? So does the scholar ship long snapper get the same amount as QB1? Money for the players will turn college sports into minor league professional sports? Then you will have to change how you recruit? What is transfer rules? Do players have to then sign 4 year contracts? The super star players will want more?

Looks like it would kill COLLEGE sports IMO.

But times have changed. Actually changed starting in the 70's. And big time TV contracts mean big money. I do believe players should make money off their image. Millions tuned in to watch Mac, Najee and especially Smitty in NC game.

They were the draw. Question is, how do you do it and keep college sports as just that College sports?

I don't want anymore professional sports. They not watchable now.

 

[onebamamaniax]

What the school/ncaa makes on these kids, specially D1 athletes in power 5 conferences is way more than the cost of a bachelors degree.

Well don't go to school, pretty simple. These guys are gonna be really surprised when they get a real job and when they pout because they're not happy and want change and the employer tells them to kick rocks! A bunch of athletes that take school seriously earn 2 degrees. If they get paid and sign with a school they should have to stay all 4 years or pay back the amount of the scholarship!

 

[onebamamaniax]

That the way life works. College is supposed to prepare you for the real world; this is a valuable lesson for them. Work harder to be in the spot that starter is in.

Same goes for the ones crying for money! Welcome to the real world they signed the papers knowing what they get. I'm gonna call my mortgage company and tell them I'm not happy and want to pay whatever is the lowest amount, let's see how that goes.

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Same goes for the ones crying for money! Welcome to the real world they signed the papers knowing what they get. I'm gonna call my mortgage company and tell them I'm not happy and want to pay whatever is the lowest amount, let's see how that goes.

That's a rather dumb comparison honestly.

 

[pwestbro61]

Have you ever taken the time to add up everything you just mentioned and compare it to the amount of money being made off these players?

Seriously, compare it to the money being made by “just playing sport” for all the people around them that are not putting in nearly the hard work to make all of this happen.

Think about this, let's just say everything you mentioned equates to 100k per player a year. For football alone that's just 850k a year, even if you estimate a few more thousands of dollars for each player, they're still spending roughly a million dollars a year. Some position coaches are making that.

Alabama brings in over 100 million dollars a year off of football. That's not even including the people that at adjacent to the program that are profiting from sports.

To top it off the greedy MFers doesn't even want players to go out and profit off their own name and likeness, something that isn't even coming out of their fat pockets...

They are “student athletes”- not employees. Big difference.

 

[huntercork]

Where did you get that $3.3 billion number? Not sure that is remotely correct.

Missing last years tournament was said to have cost the NCAA 6 billion. Heard that stated by Rick Neuhiesel this morning

 

[pwestbro61]

Missing last years tournament was said to have cost the NCAA 6 billion. Heard that stated by Rick Neuhiesel this morning

Not in one year- no way. Not even close. See above.

 

[D Isaiah T Billings-Clyde7]

They should be able to profit on their own name. It’s pretty ridiculous for an organization to be able to tell you you can’t. Especially with social media now, these players can earn money without it even being bc of their status as athletes, but they are not allowed to pursue those opportunities.
I’m completely opposed to these guys being on salary at the schools or by the ncaa, but they create a name for themselves, if someone wants to pay them to do a commercial or advertise on Twitter then they should be allowed

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

They are “student athletes”- not employees. Big difference.

Spare me the “student-athletes” BS. They are treated like they are damn near pros. They are an investment in a multi-billion dollar industry.

These guys can't just go get a job when the season is over because for them the season is never over.

“Voluntary workouts” are all voluntary and missing them could mean not only your spot on the roster but possibly your spot in the program.

These kids were kept in a bubble all year with very little social life like other students so that they can continue to generate money. Please don't try to sell me this bill of goods that playing was mainly about the players.

 

[onebamamaniax]

That's a rather dumb comparison honestly.

Spare me the “student-athletes” BS. They are treated like they are damn near pros. They are an investment in a multi-billion dollar industry.

These guys can't just go get a job when the season is over because for them the season is never over.

“Voluntary workouts” are all voluntary and missing them could mean not only your stop on the roster but possibly your spot in the program.

These kids were kept in a bubble all year with very little social life like other students so that they can continue to generate money. Please don't try to sell me this bill of goods that playing was mainly about the players.

Why is so hard for you to understand. If they don't like it and wanna stick it to the man THEN DON'T SIGN THE PAPERS TO PLAY, pretty simple. The NCAA and schools have rules just like everything else in life. Don't sign, then they can pay for everything they need to train and make the league on they're own. They can make all the money they want, get an agent, train how they want and they don't have to worry about stuff being unfair. Today's young people are being trained to cry when things seem unfair and be the victim even though they aren't!

 

[anon_z8qxv7qt5719f]

I think I'll stay out of this because I had to work full-time and go to school at the same time to get my Degrees.

 

[pwestbro61]

Spare me the “student-athletes” BS. They are treated like they are damn near pros. They are an investment in a multi-billion dollar industry.

These guys can't just go get a job when the season is over because for them the season is never over.

“Voluntary workouts” are all voluntary and missing them could mean not only your spot on the roster but possibly your spot in the program.

These kids were kept in a bubble all year with very little social life like other students so that they can continue to generate money. Please don't try to sell me this bill of goods that playing was mainly about the players.

The “ student athlete “ comment is not BS. It is a fact. Where did you get your last comment? I said nothing about that.
Sure the tourney generates money- does not mean that “ non employees” should be paid anything over and above.
I know- we are supposed to accept this “ néw world order” as acceptable. Many disagree.

 

[pwestbro61]

Why is so hard for you to understand. If they don't like it and wanna stick it to the man THEN DON'T SIGN THE PAPERS TO PLAY, pretty simple. The NCAA and schools have rules just like everything else in life. Don't sign, then they can pay for everything they need to train and make the league on they're own. They can make all the money they want, get an agent, train how they want and they don't have to worry about stuff being unfair. Today's young people are being trained to cry when things seem unfair and be the victim even though they aren't!

Entitled youth of America.

 

[childoftheKing]

To all those that actually have to work for a living try going into your bosses office tomorrow and then precede to tell them that you have good information that they are making a profit off of you and that you won't work anymore unless you get your share. See how that works.

 

[D Isaiah T Billings-Clyde7]

To all those that actually have to work for a living try going into your bosses office tomorrow and then precede to tell them that you have good information that they are making a profit off of you and that you won't work anymore unless you get your share. See how that works.

I really hope if you are working for a living then you are uh.... earning a paycheck that mirrors your worth to the company.

and that’s not even what’s in question... what if you are earning money on the side Teaching hitting lessons or making YouTube videos or whatever it may be, and your boss approached you and told you that you weren’t allowed to earn money in your spare time?

 

[G.O.A.T-23]

Why is so hard for you to understand. If they don't like it and wanna stick it to the man THEN DON'T SIGN THE PAPERS TO PLAY, pretty simple. The NCAA and schools have rules just like everything else in life. Don't sign, then they can pay for everything they need to train and make the league on they're own. They can make all the money they want, get an agent, train how they want and they don't have to worry about stuff being unfair. Today's young people are being trained to cry when things seem unfair and be the victim even though they aren't!

Such an ignorant take. What happens to football players? Do they sit out for three years? Don't be stupid.

EDIT: Also some of you seems to be under the impression that it is only players who go pro that is pushing this. You think it mattered to Sexton, who knew all he had to do was pretend to be a student of a few months, and then he was off to the NBA?

It's the players who will not be going pro, yet they help make money hand over fist for someone of the greediest people around.

 

[Sweetlou10]

I really hope if you are working for a living then you are uh.... earning a paycheck that mirrors your worth to the company.

and that’s not even what’s in question... what if you are earning money on the side Teaching hitting lessons or making YouTube videos or whatever it may be, and your boss approached you and told you that you weren’t allowed to earn money in your spare time?

Dead on. This thread is going in some weird directions and I think it’s because of a basic failure to understand this isn’t about paying athletes for playing ball. It’s about allowing them to profit financially from other things they’re doing related to ball...

 

[childoftheKing]

I really hope if you are working for a living then you are uh.... earning a paycheck that mirrors your worth to the company.

and that’s not even what’s in question... what if you are earning money on the side Teaching hitting lessons or making YouTube videos or whatever it may be, and your boss approached you and told you that you weren’t allowed to earn money in your spare time?

I totally agree with you on the fact that these athletes should be able to make whatever they want off of their own names on their own time. My point was that just because the University that you are playing for is making money while you are getting a free ride from them does not entitle you to part of their profits.