ADVERTISEMENT

GAME THREAD: No. 11 Alabama at South Carolina

Herb has zero explosiveness with his back injury man

He probably should come out and rest. I’m not sure why he is trying to dribble and penetrate in a bad back tonight. He has turned the ball over a tong
 
Herb needs to be offensive rebounding and putting back. We've had more motion on offense tonight and it's gotten us much better shots at times.
 
Halftime: Alabama 39, South Carolina 36

Alabama has an 11-5 advantage in offensive rebounds which has led to a 14-2 edge in second-chance points.
 
He probably should come out and rest. I’m not sure why he is trying to dribble and penetrate in a bad back tonight. He has turned the ball over a tong
It’s hard to not have him on the floor though right now. We’re already down Bruner, then Gary goes down. Herb really needs to quit forcing everything. Healthy Herb can get away with doing that most of the time because he’s so long and athletic but he can’t get away with forcing the issue when he’s hurting like this.
 
Gotta have more from Ellis, Petty and JQ with Herb hurt and no Gary. Herb pretty much has to play to give us a little size and rebounding. Probably gonna have to get some meaningful minutes from Ambrose in the second half. Reese can’t play every minute.
 
South Carolina is the only team worse than Bama when it comes to turnovers and out of control fouls. So difficult to watch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: grichards56
Where has Ellis been? Don't think he's been in since like the 10 minute mark.
I think coach pulled him out due to very poor defense. Good defender, but looks lost tonight. I love when Ellis is on the court.Roll Tide Frazor !!
 
I think coach pulled him out due to very poor defense. Good defender, but looks lost tonight. I love when Ellis is on the court.Roll Tide Frazor !!
Well hopefully Oats gives him another chance in the second half. We gotta have him on the floor tonight. Needs his offense and defense if we’re gonna win this one
 
  • Like
Reactions: budog and frazor
It’s hard to not have him on the floor though right now. We’re already down Bruner, then Gary goes down. Herb really needs to quit forcing everything. Healthy Herb can get away with doing that most of the time because he’s so long and athletic but he can’t get away with forcing the issue when he’s hurting like this.
He just needs to be around the basket and off rebound over a smaller guy maybe. Put him in the dunkers spot. Move Reese outside and get their big guy out of the lane. Reese will shot fake them sometimes and get a dunk too. Herb isn't helping us at all with the ball in his hands right now. But you're right, we need him on the floor.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gdh1954 and frazor
Really surprised that a Frank Martin team makes this many mistakes on offense and defense.
 
I know it’s not coaches style, but wish he would tell Rojas never to shoot or attempt to move with the ball. Just come in and play hard defense and pass the ball if you have it unless you are standing under the basket.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jtr4dad and gdh1954
I know it’s not coaches style, but wish he would tell Rojas never to shoot or attempt to move with the ball. Just come in and play hard defense and pass the ball if you have it unless you are standing under the basket.
Ala, Kurt Rambis!
 
  • Like
Reactions: mowens75
I love Herb. I've never liked him handling the ball. I know he's been forced to some. And I know he's done some good things at time, but I'm not sure the law of averages are on our side. He needs to catch and shoot or catch it and move it. And then offensive rebound. He's killing us and it's not all his back.
 
I know it’s not coaches style, but wish he would tell Rojas never to shoot or attempt to move with the ball. Just come in and play hard defense and pass the ball if you have it unless you are standing under the basket.
I literally cringe every time he’s got the ball in his hands. You just get the feeling that he’s about to do something dumb and turn the ball over somehow
 
I know it’s not coaches style, but wish he would tell Rojas never to shoot or attempt to move with the ball. Just come in and play hard defense and pass the ball if you have it unless you are standing under the basket.
I didn't think that was a charge on Rojas when going by the book. However, his lack of control is what has done him in several times this year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mowens75
I love Herb. I've never liked him handling the ball. I know he's been forced to some. And I know he's done some good things at time, but I'm not sure the law of averages are on our side. He needs to catch and shoot or catch it and move it. And then offensive rebound. He's killing us and it's not all his back.
I’m with you. Won’t meet a bigger fan of Herb Jones than me but he’s not a great ball handler. Need JQ to step his game up and play a bigger role so Herb can play where he’s more effective
 
I didn't think that was a charge on Rojas when going by the book. However, his lack of control is what has done him in several times this year.
He usually gets called for it even when it isn't a charge. He has a reputation already. And he just always look like he's looking for somebody to run over.
 
  • Like
Reactions: frazor
I didn't think that was a charge on Rojas when going by the book. However, his lack of control is what has done him in several times this year.
In think the ref just expects/anticipates him to foul because he just doesn’t do anything smooth.
 
  • Like
Reactions: frazor
Alabama leads South Carolina 50-47 with 15:35 to play.

John Petty Jr. has a game-high 15 points and five rebounds.
 
Herb not doing much of anything well tonight or am I missing it?
 
That’s the kind of play we need to have out of Petty. Not the Petty who turns it over on a simple handoff
 
  • Like
Reactions: vegas man
yeah we love herb and he plays hard. but hes absolutely the biggest liability on the team on offense these last few weeks.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT