Game thread: No. 2 seed Alabama vs. No. 11 seed UCLA (Sweet 16)
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If they make literally one more ft in regulation and go 12-25 from the line which is still God awful, they win. How can anyone on here be blaming Oats? And the refs blown calls at the end cost us. This one isn't on Oats
Herb was a great defender but an albatross on offense...his winning POY is a reflection of his defense only
I love Oats. And I believe in him. But he has to improve our half court offense with player/ball movement at times. And he has to know who’s hands to put the ball in with the game on the line. He cost us big time with that.
Herb missed the free throws late. But he missed them bc Oats put the ball in his hands to make the play. That’s Oats fault. You put the ball in your best offensive players hands with the game on the line.
This and the charge not called when the dude ran over Herb.
Yeah games like that are the difference in a good or really good/great team. A team that loses to them and gets destroyed by Stanford isn’t going to end up winning several straight against other teams making it deeper into the tourney. They rely way too much on hot streams and clutch shots, and you just won’t keep getting those.We managed to do it against UT and LSU in the SECT and then had poor first halves in all three NCAAT games, they managed to win the first two against a 15 and 10 seed (who was something like 18-12) but couldn’t keep it going.
This. It's a joke that he won that award in the first place. There are at least 10 guys in the SEC that are better than him
Never will understand the herb coast to coast .surely there's a better play to call...Oats knew that it was probably going to the free throw line....hell, herb had a leg injury and is not that great of a shooter to begin with...crazy
I love the kid and his leadership amd I think he’s a quality person...
He’s got a lot of work to do on the offensive side to get to next level
Well, I have been saying for years on here that I wanted to have a team like we did in the 80’s and early 90’s. Good seed, Levi mate
Those two missed fouls, probably, cost us the game. They were not just missed calls, but about as bad a missed calls as you will ever see in a BB game. That said, we, probably, would have missed the FT’s anyway. You can’t expect to win any game against a legitimate D1 opponent shooting 12-25 from the FT line. In all my years of playing BB, I never was on one team that shot less than 50% from the FT line in a game, and none of those players ended up playing at D1 schools.
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I think he over achieved with the personnel that we had this year. I don’t think we have a go to guy in the clutch.
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Ill be the one to say what alot of yall want to say but wont! Im not really gonna miss Herb, Petty, and Reese! Not because they havent contributed to this great season........but because in order to play and win with this style offense you need ALL 5 guys to be able to shoot it from anywhere and hit free throws! Petty is the most over-rated 3 point shooter in history, because he will hit 3 in a row the look amazing and then brick or air ball the next 10! And Herbs shot is even worse than Petty from deep and the free throw line!
Come on man. A 75% free throw shooter was at the line multiple times late including the last two with 5 seconds left. I would take that every time. He missed every single one of them. This one is on Herb.
He may have over achieved. But this group has a guy. It’s JQ. That’s not questionable.
Well, I have been saying for years on here that I wished Bama would have a BB team like we did was I was growing up in the 80’s and early 90’s. Well, we finally had that. Good seed. A team with a legitimate chance to win the whole tournament. Got lucky to play a lesser team in the sweet 16. And, deja vue/as usual, looked awful and lost. I shouldn’t complain. I got what I have been wishing for for MANY, MANY years. The toughest part is, unlike Bama football, us BB fans know you get very few opportunities to have a real chance like this, so it hurts A LOT more when you lose, because you realize that there is a very good chance you won’t have another one of these opportunities for a long time.
I don’t care what his percentages are. He’s not a finisher. He’s not a closer. He doesn’t need the ball there. Give me his percentages with the game on the line in big games. He touched it the last 3 possessions against Missouri...we didn’t have a chance. He’s not a good offensive player.
The two times he drove tonight and got fouled, he didn’t get either shot close. A decent finisher gets those balls on the rim and gives them a chance even if he gets fouled.
Exactly...put the game in JQ's hand...our best offensive player....we need a stop on defense at the end of the game, put herb on him....why have Herb take it pretty much coast to coast on a gimp leg to probably shoot free throws he just missed?
Exactly. It isn’t like we were dominate all year. We got some shots and some calls down the stretch that helped us extend our season. Not exactly a program strategy for the future!!!!!!
This. Shot as bad as possible from 3 and ESPECIALLY free throw line. The fact they could do that badly and still go to OT in the S16 shows this team really crapped the bed.
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True, but even worse he had like 4 turnovers in a row when he touched the ball in the 1st half that helped spark our opponents rally.
I really like Oats. Like any coach, or human being, he is not perfect, but I am darn glad he is our coach. I hope you are right about being a regular. I always had that feeling back in the 80’s and early 90’s that we would be back the next season. I just am not as confident, presently, that we will have another opportunity anytime in the near future like this year. It is just so tough to do in college BB now(example, look at the Kentucky’s, Duke’s, and North Carolina’s this season). Regardless of recruiting rankings, hype, etc, you have to have your team jell just right. Outside of the Providence game in ‘87(which they just played too good for anyone to beat that night), this was our best chance in my lifetime of watching Bama BB(40 years). You just don’t know if that will happen until you see it over the course of a season. I am just very disappointed, because I know these opportunities are so rare for our BB team. I would have felt the same way even if we had lost in the finals.
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But yet in every game that came down to a last shot he had the ball in his hands. I will never understand it.
Herb is a heck of a player, but tonight he payed like crap. Two quick fouls(just like the game before), but what really hurt was the 2-6 FT shooting, and taking outside shoots he darn well knows are not his forte. You can’t expect your conference player of the year to play like that and win a big game.
Let’s see if it’s a trademark of oats’ coaching down the road...
Let’s see if being a senior or upperclassmen is the reason he has the ball as we watch his next teams ..
Herb is a great defender, I would not call him a consistent finisher.
11-25 from line is just incredible. It is the latest chapter in Sweet Sixteen agony for Alabama. You could write a book about the stuff that has happened to Alabama at this point of the tourney.
Herb should have never had the ball at the end of regulation. No way. It is sad- not sure when another opportunity like this will present itself with all the main basketball powers being down. May be that Alabama is just not meant to ever make a Final Four.
Herb should have never had the ball at the end of regulation. No way. It is sad- not sure when another opportunity like this will present itself with all the main basketball powers being down. May be that Alabama is just not meant to ever make a Final Four.
Herb Jones missed the final 18 3’s of his college career. And yet...
I know what you mean. When I was growing up watching Bama BB in the 80’s and early 90’s we just couldn’t get past the sweet 16, even if we were the better team. It is just like a curse that haunts us. The difference in those games is that we didn’t lose to an 11 seed team shooting 12-25 from the FT line. That is just unreal for even an awful HS BB team.
You know the FG kicker made every single kick this year right? And perfect on PATs
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