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hard question that really dont have answer right now

all situations are different and we really dont know what happened. i have heard stories on bobby knight and i would have quit on the spot and my father might have beat his ass. chris beard coached under knight and alot of his players were going to leave whether it be in the season or at the end of the season. we will see what happens at texas.
I’m glad we have him and I’m sure he’ll help us.
 
I think the disagreement here comes down to the distinction between transferring schools after the season (which I’m all for and think kids should be able to play immediately), and quitting in the middle of the season. Huge difference. Also, why can a college athlete not be a quitter? If a middle school, high school, college, or pro athlete quits on his team 12 games into a season, that’s pretty much what they are.

You're a quitter too, would you accept being called a quitter?
 
all situations are different and we really dont know what happened. i have heard stories on bobby knight and i would have quit on the spot and my father might have beat his ass. chris beard coached under knight and alot of his players were going to leave whether it be in the season or at the end of the season. we will see what happens at texas.
This isn't Beard first rodeo, he's been doing this for a while now and to my knowledge Burnett is the first kid to quit on him like this. Not sure why we have to make excuses for the kid, throwing out things that against Beard without one ounce of evidence. That's just ridiculous on all levels.

As for his lack of shooting, he was averaging 4.2 shots per game coming off the bench, by comparison Ellis for Alabama averaged 3.7. He put up 50 shots in his 12 games, he didn't lack shooting opportunity.
 
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This isn't Beard first rodeo, he's been doing this for a while now and to my knowledge Burnett is the first kid to quit on him like this. Not sure why we have to make excuses for the kid, throwing out things that against Beard without one ounce of evidence. That's just ridiculous on all levels.

As for his lack of shooting, he was averaging 4.2 shots per game coming off the bench, by comparison Ellis for Alabama averaged 3.7. He put up 50 shots in his 12 games, he didn't lack shooting opportunity.
hook um horns goat
 
We're all quitters! we've skipped classes because we didn't study, we've laid out of work because we couldn't stomach the daily grind. But as we matured we learned from our mistakes.

Unfortunately for Burnett he quit with the sports world watching. Hopefully CNO has properly vetted the situation and along the way we all learned that life gives all of us second chances.
 
We're all quitters! we've skipped classes because we didn't study, we've laid out of work because we couldn't stomach the daily grind. But as we matured we learned from our mistakes.

Unfortunately for Burnett he quit with the sports world watching. Hopefully CNO has properly vetted the situation and along the way we all learn that life gives all of us second chances.
burnett will be fine.
 
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If this is your way of saying you were wrong for throwing out baseless allegations against Beard just to make an excuse for a player quitting, than I agree with you for once ITT.
We're all quitters! we've skipped classes because we didn't study, we've laid out of work because we couldn't stomach the daily grind. But as we matured we learned from our mistakes.

Unfortunately for Burnett he quit with the sports world watching. Hopefully CNO has properly vetted the situation and along the way we all learned that life gives all of us second chances.
I can say I never not gone to class unless I was seriously sick which might have happened a couple times. At the same time I attended a service academy so my college experience was a little different.

As for work, deciding to take a personal day isn't the same as quitting. Especially when you are in a situation where others count on you.
burnett will be fine.
I never said the kid will not be. I questioned how could you have a kid who had not shown one bit he is good enough to come onto Alabama campus and take away a starting job from a player like Shack who has shown he can play at this level and didn't quit on his team.

You are basing your opinion off of recruiting ranking from 2019 which doesn't mean a thing. I see no way a kid who went to TT and quit midway through can come in and take the position of a kid who has played high-level basketball for Alabama. Can he be a great help off the bench, yes. Can he end up starting a year or two down the road, yes again.
 
If this is your way of saying you were wrong for throwing out baseless allegations against Beard just to make an excuse for a player quitting, than I agree with you for once ITT.

I can say I never not gone to class unless I was seriously sick which might have happened a couple times. At the same time I attended a service academy so my college experience was a little different.

As for work, deciding to take a personal day isn't the same as quitting. Especially when you are in a situation where others count on you.

I never said the kid will not be. I questioned how could you have a kid who had not shown one bit he is good enough to come onto Alabama campus and take away a starting job from a player like Shack who has shown he can play at this level and didn't quit on his team.

You are basing your opinion off of recruiting ranking from 2019 which doesn't mean a thing. I see no way a kid who went to TT and quit midway through can come in and take the position of a kid who has played high-level basketball for Alabama. Can he be a great help off the bench, yes. Can he end up starting a year or two down the road, yes again.

Is your current job with the same organization as your first job? If the answer is no, then you are a quitter
 
If this is your way of saying you were wrong for throwing out baseless allegations against Beard just to make an excuse for a player quitting, than I agree with you for once ITT.

I can say I never not gone to class unless I was seriously sick which might have happened a couple times. At the same time I attended a service academy so my college experience was a little different.

As for work, deciding to take a personal day isn't the same as quitting. Especially when you are in a situation where others count on you.

I never said the kid will not be. I questioned how could you have a kid who had not shown one bit he is good enough to come onto Alabama campus and take away a starting job from a player like Shack who has shown he can play at this level and didn't quit on his team.

You are basing your opinion off of recruiting ranking from 2019 which doesn't mean a thing. I see no way a kid who went to TT and quit midway through can come in and take the position of a kid who has played high-level basketball for Alabama. Can he be a great help off the bench, yes. Can he end up starting a year or two down the road, yes again.
i belive you would argue with a stop sign.
 
My goodness this is the dumbest comparison I’ve ever seen in my life.

Sounds like what you're saying is that you are allowed to quit your job which you are paid to do so that you move to a different job that is better for you. However, athletes which are not paid are not allowed to move out of a situation that they feel is not best for them. So not only are you a quitter, you're a hypocrite
 
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Sounds like what you're saying is that you are allowed to quit your job which you are paid to do so that you move to a different job that is better for you. However, athletes which are not paid are not allowed to move out of a situation that they feel is not best for them. So not only are you a quitter, you're a hypocrite
None of the examples you or others in this thread are offering are remotely analogous to a player quitting on his team in the middle of the season.
 
None of the examples you or others in this thread are offering are remotely analogous to a player quitting on his team in the middle of the season.

Im making an assumption here, but you sound like the kind of guy who says "I only want guys here who want to be here". Well guess what, he didn't want to be there.
 
Sounds like what you're saying is that you are allowed to quit your job which you are paid to do so that you move to a different job that is better for you. However, athletes which are not paid are not allowed to move out of a situation that they feel is not best for them. So not only are you a quitter, you're a hypocrite
I can tell you have never played a team sport in your life.
 
I can tell you have never played a team sport in your life.

I've played plenty. And I never quit mid season, but I never felt like I had a reason to. I also don't consider myself a quitter even though I have in fact quit a few jobs to help improve my career aspirations. I hope Burnett is also able to improve his career by quitting a situation that was bad for him. It's a pretty poor outlook on life to suggest that everyone you know is a quitter, but if you'd like to consider yourself a quitter I'm happy to call you one.
 
if your coach keeps getting quiters like q and burnett find somebody else to pull for.

Or quitters like Landon Dickerson and Jake Coker. Guys like quinnen williams, TJ Yeldon amd Bryce Young who quit on their commitment to their coaches. Gotta be miserable going through life thinking everyone is a quitter
 
I've played plenty. And I never quit mid season, but I never felt like I had a reason to. I also don't consider myself a quitter even though I have in fact quit a few jobs to help improve my career aspirations. I hope Burnett is also able to improve his career by quitting a situation that was bad for him. It's a pretty poor outlook on life to suggest that everyone you know is a quitter, but if you'd like to consider yourself a quitter I'm happy to call you one.
I hope you're not raising any young men, this kind of attitude is one of the problems in younger generations.
 
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Im making an assumption here, but you sound like the kind of guy who says "I only want guys here who want to be here". Well guess what, he didn't want to be there.
Nope. I’m very glad he’s here. I think he’ll help us. That’s a separate conversation though from the question of whether or not he, to quote the great Coach Yost: “Abandoned his team in their time of need.” I believe he quit on his teammates, and I hope he can move on and have a great life. Everyone makes mistakes, but to pretend that wasn’t quitting is wrong.
 
This dude makes a few posts on a message board now he thinks he can tell people who to pull for.

BTW, JQ didn't quit on his team. He stayed and finished the year with his teammates he was committed to.
It’s amazing to me these guys keep comparing JQ and Burnett. There is a very simple and obvious difference here...
I’ll take it a step further. JQ had a horrible attitude at Nova and was a cancer... tweeting publicly criticizing his coach and school. However, it seems he got his head straight and has a much better attitude now.
 
Or quitters like Landon Dickerson and Jake Coker. Guys like quinnen williams, TJ Yeldon amd Bryce Young who quit on their commitment to their coaches. Gotta be miserable going through life thinking everyone is a quitter
None of the young men you mentioned went into a season with a team and bailed on them because he was not getting the desired playing time.
 
It’s amazing to me these guys keep comparing JQ and Burnett. There is a very simple and obvious difference here...
I’ll take it a step further. JQ had a horrible attitude at Nova and was a cancer... tweeting publicly criticizing his coach and school. However, it seems he got his head straight and has a much better attitude now.
It is crazy they keep trying to compare the two. I have said many times I am for players having the right to transfer after the season.

Who knows what kind of impact he could have made on TT later in the season when his number was called. Look at Ellis who came on toward the middle of season for Bama. Made some big plays when called on, that's being part of something bigger than you.
 
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None of the young men you mentioned went into a season with a team and bailed on them because he was not getting the desired playing time.

So you're ok with quitting, it's the timing of the quitting you don't agree with. We're all quitters apparently, so it doesn't really matter to me whether you think someone is a good quitter or a bad quitter.
 
This dude makes a few posts on a message board now he thinks he can tell people who to pull for.

BTW, JQ didn't quit on his team. He stayed and finished the year with his teammates he was committed to.
so q quit later so he is a better quitter. i want you to pull for someone else because you are a joke.
 
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Sounds like what you're saying is that you are allowed to quit your job which you are paid to do so that you move to a different job that is better for you. However, athletes which are not paid are not allowed to move out of a situation that they feel is not best for them. So not only are you a quitter, you're a hypocrite
if your coach keeps getting quiters like q and burnett find somebody else to pull for.
What is wrong with some of you people? You are one of my favorite bball posters around here mr4bama, but just because GOAT is calling it for what it is does not make him anti Bama. The damn kid quit on his team PERIOD, but I can assure you that I will be pulling for him just as hard as I will Ellis, Shack and Primo when I am traveling all over the south to Bama games next year. My thoughts are the same whether it involves Bama, LSU, Kentucky or Duke kids and like many here I believe that when the season is over the student athlete should be allowed to transfer without penalty at least once.

Roll Tide!!
 
What is wrong with some of you people? You are one of my favorite bball posters around here mr4bama, but just because GOAT is calling it for what it is does not make him anti Bama. The damn kid quit on his team PERIOD, but I can assure you that I will be pulling for him just as hard as I will Ellis, Shack and Primo when I am traveling all over the south to Bama games next year. My thoughts are the same whether it involves Bama, LSU, Kentucky or Duke kids and like many here I believe that when the season is over the student athlete should be allowed to transfer without penalty at least once.

Roll Tide!!

Students should be allowed to transfer out of any situation they don't want to be a part of. Just like adults.
 
What is wrong with some of you people? You are one of my favorite bball posters around here mr4bama, but just because GOAT is calling it for what it is does not make him anti Bama. The damn kid quit on his team PERIOD, but I can assure you that I will be pulling for him just as hard as I will Ellis, Shack and Primo when I am traveling all over the south to Bama games next year. My thoughts are the same whether it involves Bama, LSU, Kentucky or Duke kids and like many here I believe that when the season is over the student athlete should be allowed to transfer without penalty at least once.

Roll Tide!!
goat brings out the worst in people and i really dont think he is a bama fan just because he says so.
 
What is wrong with some of you people? You are one of my favorite bball posters around here mr4bama, but just because GOAT is calling it for what it is does not make him anti Bama. The damn kid quit on his team PERIOD, but I can assure you that I will be pulling for him just as hard as I will Ellis, Shack and Primo when I am traveling all over the south to Bama games next year. My thoughts are the same whether it involves Bama, LSU, Kentucky or Duke kids and like many here I believe that when the season is over the student athlete should be allowed to transfer without penalty at least once.

Roll Tide!!
I agree. @mr4bama is a great poster... but this is quite bizarre.
 
Students should be allowed to transfer out of any situation they don't want to be a part of. Just like adults.
"Should be allowed to" and "doing the right thing" are very different concepts. You don't seem to grasp that. I believe people should be allowed to do all kinds of things that I don't believe are necessarily ethically right.
 
"Should be allowed to" and "doing the right thing" are very different concepts. You don't seem to grasp that. I believe people should be allowed to do all kinds of things that I don't believe are necessarily ethically right.

Do you believe that adults who are paid should be allowed to quit whenever they want, but students who are not paid should not be afforded the same opportunities? That's really weird. Do you follow alabama golf? Do you think Davis Riley is a quitter?
 
Do you believe that adults who are paid should be allowed to quit whenever they want, but students who are not paid should not be afforded the same opportunities? That's really weird. Do you follow alabama golf? Do you think Davis Riley is a quitter?
this is my last comment on this. it just rubs me the wrong way calling burnett a quitter when none of us know what happened. we all get heated on here sometime and say things we dont mean. im gonna let it go at that. roll tide
 
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Do you believe that adults who are paid should be allowed to quit whenever they want, but students who are not paid should not be afforded the same opportunities? That's really weird. Do you follow alabama golf? Do you think Davis Riley is a quitter?
Adult professional athletes? If I’m on a team, and I have sweat and bled with this team and trusted them and they trusted me, I don’t believe a person should quit 12 games into a season. Should they “be allowed to?” Yeah probably. Again, you are either ignoring or just not understanding that I absolutely believe he should be allowed to quit, but I do not agree that it is the right thing to do. Now, a team sport is a bit different than a lot of jobs. If I quit my job, I don’t have teammates and coaches who have committed to me and are depending on me in the same way as a team sport. My boss can hire someone else right away, whereas a college team and coach are left high and dry when their McDonald’s all American leaves in the middle of the year.
 
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Adult professional athletes? If I’m on a team, and I have sweat and bled with this team and trusted them and they trusted me, I don’t believe a person should quit 12 games into a season. Should they “be allowed to?” Yeah probably. Again, you are either ignoring or just not understanding that I absolutely believe he should be allowed to quit, but I do not agree that it is the right thing to do. Now, a team sport is a bit different than a lot of jobs. If I quit my job, I don’t have teammates and coaches who have committed to me and are depending on me in the same way as a team sport. My boss can hire someone else right away, whereas a college team and coach are left high and dry when their McDonald’s all American leaves in the middle of the year.

Lol at thinking there's absolutely no negative impact to your team if you just stop showing up to your job one day. You must be terrible at your job if your boss can hire someone the next day and there's 0 drop-off. But you've acknowledged you're a quitter, so maybe your boss does have someone on standby. Are you gonna go to football games this fall and hold a sign up protesting keilan Robinson? you'll always be in the wrong in my book if you're calling davis Riley a quitter.
 
so q quit later so he is a better quitter. i want you to pull for someone else because you are a joke.
I want you to know what the hell you're talking about, but I guess neither of us are getting what we want any time soon.
 
Lol at thinking there's absolutely no negative impact to your team if you just stop showing up to your job one day. You must be terrible at your job if your boss can hire someone the next day and there's 0 drop-off. But you've acknowledged you're a quitter, so maybe your boss does have someone on standby. Are you gonna go to football games this fall and hold a sign up protesting keilan Robinson? you'll always be in the wrong in my book if you're calling davis Riley a quitter.
So you’ve clarified something here that you didn’t say in your initial post. Quitting your job is different than not showing up one day. I’ve said this to you already, but I almost wasn’t hired at my current job because they wanted me to start immediately and I told them I needed to give my boss a 2 week notice so they can start the process of filling my position. I wrestled with it because I really wanted to the job, but decided to refuse to quit without giving them the proper notice. Also, you’ve clarified that you’re an adult who says “lol” in an argument, which also says a lot.
 
So you’ve clarified something here that you didn’t say in your initial post. Quitting your job is different than not showing up one day. I’ve said this to you already, but I almost wasn’t hired at my current job because they wanted me to start immediately and I told them I needed to give my boss a 2 week notice so they can start the process of filling my position. I wrestled with it because I really wanted to the job, but decided to refuse to quit without giving them the proper notice. Also, you’ve clarified that you’re an adult who says “lol” in an argument, which also says a lot.

Quitting your job is quitting your job. If you quit your job, you are a quitter according to you. You're the one trying to establish a difference between good quitters and bad quitters, not me. You're describing yourself as a quitter, so Ive said I'm ok calling you a quitter.
 
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